"Subject: Problems with electronic noise from SSDs
"As a long time advocate for silent computing and other environments, I've been a constant visitor to your site for your excellent relevant reviews and industry status reports. My problem with noise is primarily exhibited in suffering from long term tinnitus which stems from various environmental factors including both excessively loud environments and chemical exposure since childhood.
"Perhaps the earliest and most important of these was from large crowd and starting gun noise, as well as the chemical effects of chlorine byproducts, while competing in small and poorly ventilated swimming pool environments from age 6 through college. Add to this lawn mowing over much of the same period, college ROTC Marksman competition, audio lab engineer and audiophile, and wood cutter using chain saws, and it's amazing I have any hearing left at all.
"As such, in the last 25 years, since the mid 1980's, it's made me the proverbial "canary in a mine shaft" with both hearing and chemical sensitivities. That's when I first started getting serious about protecting my hearing and researching ways to avoid and reduce noise exposure. The first and most critical of these was reducing noise exposure both at the source and when that wasn't possible with hearing protection. I also found that chemical exposure exacerbated the effects of noise, and avoidance of these sources helped immensely.
"In more recent years, the impact of computer and electronic noise on me has become more pronounced to the extent that even wireless transmissions affect my tinnitus adversely. I can't even tolerate portable phone systems above 1Ghz or wireless G networks when in quiet environments. If they are in more concentrated noise environments with a variety of frequency ranges and sources, such as electronic stores like BB, the impact is far less as the noise seems to cancel itself out at the critical frequencies that affect me.
"I'd been constantly searching for the next best hard drive that would lower the noise level to inaudible, and your site has been most helpful in working through this. Fortunately, I stumbled on one drive, a Seagate Barracuda V 7200RPM 120GB drive, that has been my primary drive since it was first introduced. By custom installing it in a very quiet Stealth enclosure manufactured by Arm Systems in California (long since out of business) I've been able to survive for the last 8-10 years with a very quiet desktop system in my office environment.
"Of course this didn't solve the problem with mobile computing, and even with the much more quiet 2.5" hard drive format, most of them were a problem for me due the immediate proximity of the unit. For many years I used ear plugs when working with laptops, until I finally found a Toshiba Satellite that was tolerable for reasonable periods of time. Constantly seeking solutions to this, I became an early adopter of SSDs, and was certain these products would be the answer to my long time issue with spinning hard drive noise. I eventually changed out that unit's conventional hard drive for a Transcend TS64GSSD25-M, which has an IDE/PATA interface. Even with the occasional fan noise, which isn't obtrusive to me, it's a wonderfully quiet laptop I still use for travel, although very under-powered in for much of today's computing needs other than the basics. I've had problems with this Transcend's drive "freezing", probably due to the JMicron controller, and have had to replace it under warranty. Fortunately, Transcend has been excellent in this regard.
"With the constant evolution of technology, and my ever increasing interest in all things digital, including digital photo and video processing, a couple of years ago I eventually was pressed into upgrading my digital processing computer. While I was tempted to build my own, I opted to work with Puget Systems when they provided a very competitive quote for an Intel i7 system compared to my own pricing. It includes the following:
- Antec P182 Case
- Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Motherboard
- Intel Core i7 Quad 920 Processor
- 12GB Kingston DDR3-1333 RAM
- Seasonic M12D850W PS
- Gigabyte Radeon HD 4850 1GB Silent (Fanless) Graphics
- Scythe Silent Case Fans
- Gelid Silent Spirit CPU Cooler
- Pioneer 20X DVD-RW Drive
- Windows Vista Ultimate 64 dual boot with Win7 Pro 64
- Initial HD WD Caviar Green 1TB replaced/w Intel X25-M G1
- Various 2.5" drives including USB Portables
- Scythe Smart Drive 2.5" Enclosure
"During that time period, the Intel X25-M G1 was just being introduced. After trying a WD Caviar Green 1TB drive, even with the system operating remotely in an adjoining room with noise dampening, I couldn't tolerate it and bought the Intel SSD when they became available. By using the original Toshiba hard drive from the laptop as swap disk, and various Seagate and WD portable USB drives for data, this unit has been superb in both silent operation, and performance.
"This brings me to the issue that initiated this email, the SPCR article by Lawrence Lee entitled "Consumer SSD Battle: WD, Kingston, OCZ, Intel".
"As a footnote to his noise evaluation Lawrence states: "n.m. = Not measurable. It's possible that there could be a tiny bit of electronic noise (typically a high pitched squeal) being emitted by any of these SSDs, either intermittently depending on task, or continuously, but we never heard a thing, even in the anechoic chamber with ear pressed right up against the drives." [Editor's Note: This was, in fact, my own comment]
"This is particularly relevant to me, most notably as a tinnitus sufferer. As mentioned above, I am able to detect electronic noise in a variety of environments from certain electronics, and I've found certain SSDs to be major culprits. Specifically, the Intel X25-M G2s are a major problem. Having had excellent results from the original G1 version, I purchased 2 G2s when they were first available. Unfortunately, they emit a strong high pitched electronic noise that severely impacts my tinnitus, causing it to ring at different frequencies and for long periods of time following even short exposure. It's similar to the problem I have with both wireless 3G networks and cellular phone 3G transmissions, where the iPhone on 3G causes it but the 2G/EDGE transmissions don't. However, it's much more severe with the Intel G2s, as evidenced by a family member who also has tinnitus, but to a lesser degree. They are not bothered by the iPhone 3G transmissions or 3G wireless, but the Intel G2 drives them nuts as well!
"After first determining this problem, I initially thought it was with the SATA interface, as spinning SATA drives cause a similar problem. But of course it's difficult to divorce the HD noise from the electronic noise in this situation. I have had some luck with reducing the noise level with the hard drives using a Scythe Smart Drive 2.5 enclosure, but it doesnt seem to impact the Intel G2 noise at all! Nor does any kind of shielding seem to work. Its just constant and pervasive throughout the house when they are on. In contrast, the Transcend IDE SSD doesnt emit any electronic noise that I can detect, and is completely silent from my perspective. So there may be some factor involving the SATA interface that is causing the problem. Continuing to seek a solution, I decided to try out another SATA SSD, the OCZ Vertex 2 60GB. This one also caused some electronic noise, although not as severe or pronounced as the Intel G2. But it was obtrusive enough that I returned the drive.
"Finally, after sitting on these 2 Intel G2 SSDs for quite a while, I contacted Intel and they have agreed to look at them to see if they can determine the issue and a cause. With luck, Ill have some resolution to this. To sum up my feedback to the article, please let the reviewer (Larry) know that there are individuals out there that are adversely affected by electronic noise, including that from SSDs. Unfortunately, Im one of them. It would be great to define the specifics of this problem, with regard to the frequencies and intensity of the signal that causes it. If you have any suggestions on how I might go about doing this, Id be very much interested in your response.
"Thank you sincerely for your work in this area of technology, and for listening to my experiences.
"Sincerely, Richard in Illinois
"*PS The head of Intel North America Customer Service is the one to whom my query about the SSDs was escalated. He contacted me directly by phone and handled it himself, including receiving my shipment personally, and paying for it as well. Following my explanation of the problem, including my request to exchange them for G1 units, which are no longer available, he offered to refund my entire purchase price paid to MWave.com. Amazingly, just a few days later, I received a check from Intel, via next day mail. Their response has been terrific, and frankly the best I've ever had from any tech company in my many years of dealing with such."