kaange wrote:Given that the E4x00 CPUs have a FSB limit of 800MHz, would it make sense to pair them with a 945PL Express chipset m/b (since we're saving $$ here)?

Greg

Only if your not intending on overclocking. The early reports are 100% (1.8 > 3.6) OC on good MB with high end air (ninja).

It fits in my shuttle, although the motherboards layout is probably different.

Have a look over at sudhian to see what people have done in the past.
http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/forums/viewforum/4/

I've got a SN95G5v3. Your next 2 targets should be the PS and NB. - You can swap the PS fan for a 60mm ADDA fan. - Get a Passive Zalman NB (running without the onboard graphics you will be fine). If things start to get to hot during full load (CPU and Video) you can just fit a slightly tilted 80mm f...

Yep, more work for your video card = more heat generated.

I can game 1280x1024 with 2xAA, 4xAF with all my fans on low. If I make anyone of those settings higher. Then it overheats if I dont kick up the fan speed. 1680x1050 with 0xAA and 0xAF is also fine.

Yeah, I just put an NB47J on my Epox NF4 Ultra. I keep a 120mm Yate Loon fan @ 5V on foam on the bottom of my case pointed at it just to move some air over it. Now I can keep my finger on it without burning myself. :) Those nForce 4 chipsets are just crazy hot. Thank God none of my motherboards hav...

AMD and Intel chips both have a sliding scale for power usage, but they throw every chip "core disign" into the same bracket, which is plain wrong, a 2800+ Sempron thats rated at 62W will use much less than that, and I doubt that the top of the line Sempron actually uses 62W anyway. AMD calls it "T...

qviri wrote:Yes, but when going outside, you can always put on more clothes, but you can't exactly take off your skin...

But you can go to the beach. You can keep your women with more clothes on, I'll stay with the bikinis.

Mari0-Br0s wrote:I went in France last winter to visit some friends, temperature was hot compared to Montreal, when I came back, I was totaly freezing with a few celcius below 0...

So you were totally freezing when the temperature was below freezing. What a surprise

For the record, shovelling snow is fun. As is freezing rain. I'd take shovelling over 35*C temperatures any day. Give me 40c over anything less than 18c. I would rather not freeze my arse off. I've seen Snow about 5 times in my life, its ok to visit but I couldnt live with the stuff. Thankfully eve...

Australia's energy star program does this. Each appliance gets a rating out of 6 stars as well as an estimated typical kW/h per year number. I think my fridge at home is ~800kW/h a year. We even have websites setup to help people buy appliances, recommendations on power savings, etc. Well it can't ...

It reminds me of my recent experience shopping for a fridge, another appliance where I valued silence and efficiency above most other criteria. I think an improvement would be not just providing a star rating, but an actual number based on assumed hours of idle/active use (kW/Hr/Yr). That way, peop...

Is there anybody who has measured the idle power comsumption? Xbitlabs compares power consumption of C2D and A64 X2 The Athlon uses less power at idle (CnQ enabled). However you could make up for the difference by turning off your PC when you are not using it; this way you can justify getting a C2D...

There are still plenty of AGP cards out there (and some new ones being released). 7600GS - passive cooling (standard), performance ~6800 Standard, cheap 7600GT - fan, performance ~6800GT, good value 7800GS - fan, performance ~6800Ultra, expensive X1950Pro - fan, performance ~ 2x6800GT, brand new pro...

Smallest and fasted gaming PC is probably the "SN26P" from Shuttle

Its 939 AMD (which with dual core is still enough), OC able and its SLI. All that in a toaster.

The controlling of fan speed is up to the bios. All of the gigabyte boards have QFan which handles it, this actually caused problems at work as one of the file servers is a 754 A64 with CnQ enabled. QFan would turn off the CPU fan the PC was idle and the bios fan Alarm would sound and the techs didn...

Yeah, my little Shuttle has to deal with 40c+ ambient temps. Thank god for undervolting.

Just in time for version 2. Looks like this one should have lower thermals and less power draw. But I expect the same noise levels.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4228

The passive 7300GS's at work idle around 70c in the HP towers. The nvidia drivers say that the threshold is 130c. Their only used for 2d however.

- IS NOT limited to 1.1v when using CnQ (2.2ghz 1.2v, 1ghz 0.9v) Are these the stock CnQ P-states for the 3500? The spec sheet indicates that the stock volts for stock speed should be 1.35/1.40V? http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA3500DAA4BP To answer both of you. I am usin...

I think this is more complicated. Starting with the E revision I believe that AMD put microcode in the CPU that tells the software that the minimum voltage is 1.1v. However this is an artificial limit (can some dev for RMClock or Crystal confirm this?). My E3 3500+ - IS limited to 1.1v when using on...

HP have been selling BTX AMD's for at least a year.

The AMD on BTX thing was solved a long time ago, its just not worth it to introduce an enhusiast board with it.

I fixed my problem by going straight to the forums. Basically
Forums = Logged in
Main Site, then forums = Logged out.

I'll recommend auspcmarket.com.au, their not cheap but they are good and their packaging will survive a nuclear war. starsky: Personally recommend SecretNet I'll 2nd secret, free deliver if your local and/or free pickup. The online ordering system will send you a heap of emails however. Also worth p...

Anyway, I dont know if Ive got a holy grail processor, or if its standard, but my Sempron is stable at 1.000V at stock speeds! 1) what stepping is it? Most E6 chips have a 1.1V Vcore lock (it would seem). I'm pretty sure that all E6 chips have the 1.1v lock, most E4 and some E3 as well. However its...

umm, it said "that the supplemental power was unplugged".

Did you plug in the graphic cards additional power connector?

And the spec sheet of my 3500+ says 89w, but TCase says 36.4w. They are just setting themselves a limit. All samples will vary. That's a TDP of 89w (Thermal Design Point) not the actual power consumption. Basically it is how hot the CPU can get (in terms of watts) and still function properly. Yeah ...

JVM wrote:According to this spec sheet that appears to be from nVidia, the power consumption of the 7600 GT is 67 watts:

http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=318

And the spec sheet of my 3500+ says 89w, but TCase says 36.4w. They are just setting themselves a limit. All samples will vary.

I installed a Seasonic S12 in a P180 over the weekend and the Aux 12V cable is too much of a tight fit for my liking. I searched eBay for a 12V 4 pin extender cable but didn’t come up with anything; I did however find a P4 Molex Power Adaptor Cable ( 4 Pin ) ; is this okay to use instead of the d...

Any chance of SPCR testing the VF100?

There's a few of us that dont have the room for a 2 slot cooler.

Well written review and the board is good for a low-end HTPC / kioks type machine. Had wanted to use such a solution (ie VIA C3/Eden/C7 + mini-ITX combination) for a 24x7 home file server (with terabytes of SATA RAID 5 based storage). The main draw for me towards this is the low power consumption. ...