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by Felger Carbon
Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:47 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

The new Enermax fans arrived!

I got the Enermax fans today (Thur) as advertised. How did they get here so fast from VA when I went cheap with UPS ground? Simple. They weren't shipped from VA (or East Luna), they were shipped from a shop in Rowland Heights, CA. Which explains why East Luna continues to show 0 parts in stock altho...
by Felger Carbon
Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Scythe Ninja Rev. A with AM2+?
Replies: 9
Views: 4270

I can confirm that the AM2 RM (retainer module) RevB can mount a Ninja A because I have one so mounted. It took me ~15 minutes of hard work. I also have a Ninja A mounted on an AM2 RM RevC and it took me about a minute. The revC can be purchased at Heatsinkfactory.com. The problem is, the four 478 m...
by Felger Carbon
Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:03 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: PWM to 3-pin adaptor
Replies: 14
Views: 5408

It's actually £ 9.25 and 120mm PWM fans are quite hard to get hold of and any I've found would actually be more expensive and none of them are particularly quiet. Plus this way I have a PWM to DC adaptor which I could if I wanted rewire to power any 3rd party fan off of a PWM header on a graphics ...
by Felger Carbon
Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:34 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

Newegg now has the new Enermax 120mm fans in stock:
Search "Enermax case fan uc-ma12" for the Magma (3-pin fixed RPM)
Search "Enermax case fan uc-ev12" for the Everest (thermal)
Search "Enermax case fan uc-cl12" for the Cluster (PWM)
by Felger Carbon
Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:53 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: 60mm fans??
Replies: 5
Views: 3308

I do remember there being some sort of debacle about SilenX on this forum, didn't leave a very good taste in my mouth. I don't consider SilenX a quality brand, they seem to get by by badmouthing established brands and making huge promises - and still manage to leave out crucial information like act...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:26 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

I just got an email from East Luna that my shipment of the new Enermax fans, all 3 of them, is out the door. Expected delivery is 10 Apr or this Thursday.
by Felger Carbon
Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:59 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Thermalright IFX-14 - a first review
Replies: 49
Views: 50525

^^ I'm getting ~22dBA here with $7000 meter ;) In ~1978, with a then-equivalent of your $7000 meter, I measured 23dBA in my bedroom on the edge of Irvine Ranch in Orange County, CA, at 3AM (my favorite time for testing noise floors). No double-glazed windows then, which I do have now. That 23dBA is...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:11 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Need quiet 40mm fans
Replies: 4
Views: 3273

A quiet 40mm fan isn't gonna push many CFMs. Scythe makes the 40mmx10mm Mini Kaze, 4.11CFM, and the 40x20mm Mini Kaze Ultra, 4.86CFM. Strangely, the 10mm version has a much lower-pitched noise, which is more pleasing to my ear. These are probably as quiet as you'll find in the $5-$7 range.
by Felger Carbon
Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:01 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Thermalright IFX-14 - a first review
Replies: 49
Views: 50525

- mis-characterisation of 'twice as loud' (based on 10 db(A) diff) come again? "As a rule of thumb a 10dBA. increase corresponds approximately to a doubling of perceived. loudness (eg 60dBA sounds twice as loud as 50dBA)." Yes, 10dB is the rule of thumb often used in engineering. How ever, psychoac...
by Felger Carbon
Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:09 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: what harddisk to buy for $75-95/€50-60?
Replies: 4
Views: 3705

Re: what harddisk to buy for $75-95/€50-60?

Samsung HD250HJ. Single platter 250 GB hard drive, prices start at less than €40. This is it's topic on the SPCR forum. Should be quiet according to the comments in the topic. No reviews found. This hard drive has 8 MB cache, would it offer less performance than other hard drives with 16 MB cache...
by Felger Carbon
Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:21 pm
Forum: User Reviews
Topic: Using high-CFM fans at low CFM... Noise??
Replies: 1
Views: 7308

I purchased two other high-rpm fans for these tests. One was a Rexflo PWM 2600RPM 96CFM-rated fan; in fact, its maximum RPM proved to be 1871, woefully short of its specification. So far short that any measurements I took on this sample of the fan would not be applicable to a normal Rexflo, so I tos...
by Felger Carbon
Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:09 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

Has anybody here ever been on a snipe hunt? I'm beginning to think these "Enermax fans" are snipes... The ISY (Italian) site that originally had Jan 4 2008 delivery went to "late delivery" for 4 months, returning a week ago with Apr 4 2008 (today), but today the delivery is Apr 30 delivery. As noted...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:18 pm
Forum: User Reviews
Topic: Using high-CFM fans at low CFM... Noise??
Replies: 1
Views: 7308

Using high-CFM fans at low CFM... Noise??

from an earlier posting, repeated as reference: YL SM 1041RPM 560prop 48.2dBA GW NCB 970RPM 560prop 44.9dBA (NCB sample #2) SC PWM 910RPM 560prop 48.6dBA Kama PWM 100% AC PWM 902RPM 560prop 46.1dBA Arctic Cooling PWM 100% UC12EB 880RPM 560prop 41.2dBA (a sweet-sounding fan) SilenX 866RPM 560prop 45....
by Felger Carbon
Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:40 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Nexus 120/92mm PWM now available.
Replies: 12
Views: 7141

I can stop them by hand and it stays still for a while but suddenly it seems to get a little extra pulse of power and it starts up again. The classic fans do not behave like that. The Intel PWM specification requires that the PWM fan be restarted (or an attempt made) periodically. The A-C and Scyth...
by Felger Carbon
Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:50 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

The East Luna web site shows "new arrival" for the delivery status of these fans, and "not in stock" (unchanged). They were supposed to arrive today. This would be consistent with "Yes, the boxes arrived just now" and "No, we haven't yet unpacked them and put them on the shelf". So my fingers are cr...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:47 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

The Italian site Isy has been reporting "delivery late" (translation) for some time now. Today, that was switched to 04-04-08, or next Friday. And East Luna is supposed to receive their shipment tomorrow. April Fool?? :P
by Felger Carbon
Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:19 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

Avalanche wrote:I don't get it. Do they want you to take the fan apart?
That's the easiest way to clean the dust off that 9-blade fan... Hmm? :wink:
by Felger Carbon
Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:25 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung single-platter 250GB drive
Replies: 51
Views: 37298

"The F1 series puts 333G on one platter" The 750GB F1 has 250GB platters. I believe the one-platter 332G F1 has been sold (and sold out for the first run) and also reviewed in Europe. Perhaps I should have written that *some* F1s have ~333G platters? :wink: edit: The very first feature is "up to 33...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:14 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Good & Quiet 80 x 80 x 15mm fans?
Replies: 7
Views: 4367

D Incorporated wrote:Heh, well I don't have tin-snips (or if I do I don't know what they are), I don't intend to do a bunch of cutting up...
All you need is a hole large enough to pass the 3-pin fan connector (use a drill). If you can cut and then splice and solder, the fan leads will pass thru the existing holes.
by Felger Carbon
Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:07 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Nexus 120/92mm PWM now available.
Replies: 12
Views: 7141

Re: Nexus 120mm PWM now available.

Taking the SPCR review of the Scythe S-flex as an example, test results showed <19 dBA@1m at 5V (550rpm), but only 23 dBA@1m at 9V (1190RPM). Using your calculations, S-Flex at 1100RPM should have been at least 35dBA. (Double RPM = about +18dBA) The SPCR test facility has a noise floor of ~18dBA. E...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:50 am
Forum: User Reviews
Topic: new Scythe Kama Flex, other 92mm fans at equal airflow
Replies: 3
Views: 8891

This doesn't necessarily tell you how they would perform under lower CFM needs, would it? Could it be that when the Nexus is @ 7V, and airflow amongst all fans is held constant, that the Nexus then becomes the most quiet? Or, are you suggesting that this new fan becomes the best choice for 92mm fan...
by Felger Carbon
Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:20 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung single-platter 250GB drive
Replies: 51
Views: 37298

zzombi wrote:What worries me are reliability reports of the Spinpoint F1 series...
The F1 series puts 333G on one platter, while the Samsung HD250HJ puts 250G on one platter. That's a generation older technology, and should by now be vanilla tech and hence reliable.
by Felger Carbon
Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:51 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Scythe Shuriken in a NSK-1380 HTPC case
Replies: 4
Views: 4642

Scythe Shuriken in a NSK-1380 HTPC case

A friend of mine tried this combo yesterday. The good news is, the Shuriken does fit beneath the PSU. The bad news is, about 30% of the thin 100mm fan is blocked. Blocked fans are noisy and push no air (for that 30%). The net result is, he got better cooling/noise using a Thermaltake TR-2 with the 9...
by Felger Carbon
Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:04 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New Scythe fan line... KAMA FLEX.
Replies: 12
Views: 9907

Bluefront, I just posted a review of the 92mm Kama Flex in the User Review forum. Looks darn good! I also got an 80mm version from JabTech, so I'll post an 80mm review soon (see if I got lucky twice).
by Felger Carbon
Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:41 pm
Forum: User Reviews
Topic: new Scythe Kama Flex, other 92mm fans at equal airflow
Replies: 3
Views: 8891

new Scythe Kama Flex, other 92mm fans at equal airflow

Scythe Kama Flex 1600RPM, SilenX "11dBA" 92mm fan, Arctic Cooling AF9225 fan, GlobalWin NCB 92mm fan, Nexus Silent 92mm fan. All recently purchased. 30dBA SLM range used for noise measurements, ambient noise <30dBA, 1/4" microphone distance. Airflow sensor propeller RPM 695 for all fans (equal airfl...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:53 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

I love fan specifications. The new Enermax Magma 120mm has USA specs of 1500RPM, 69.15CFM, and 18dBA. (Get by clicking on fan pic on either the Enermax site or the EastLuna site) The same Magma offered in Italy (eventually) is 1500RPM, 69.15CFM and 29.58dBA - 11.58dBA higher than in the USA. Must be...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:10 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9928

April Fools' Day and the new Enermax fans

Supposedly arriving in Virginia on Apr 1. Several models, several sizes. Office has a street address but it's not a storefront: http://www.eastluna.com/hardware/listings.php?id=cyl&id2=327 That's less than a week away. I might order a couple for luck, once I review the RPMs of the different models (...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:02 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Zalman 9700NT vs Asus Arctic Square
Replies: 2
Views: 2065

Xigmatech's HDT-1283, Kingwin's Revolution 120mm, and ZEROTherm's Nirvana 120 both outperform the coolers you've listed, and the Nirvana looks spectular. All are reasonably priced, as well -- judging by the criteria you've listed, I'd spring for the Nirvana. Since you're in Oz, availability might b...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:20 pm
Forum: The Silent Front
Topic: Power meter questions
Replies: 17
Views: 12952

Here's the PDF manual (~200k) for the Etech PM-300. At the top you can see the pic; at the bottom the specs. It reads 230V with a resolution of 0.02A - that's a resolution of 4.6W (I think). Not designed for low-power loads, it would seem.
by Felger Carbon
Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:57 am
Forum: The Silent Front
Topic: Solid State Fan, Ionic Cooling Hits The Big Time!
Replies: 24
Views: 16247

I'm curious: which direction does the air flow? I'm curious about the energy balance. Real mass (air) is being accellerated from standstill to a moving column of air, just like a regular fan. Thus, the air gains kinetic energy. This energy has to come from somewhere. So at least one of the two elec...