New Radeon 9800, 9600, and 9200 released!

Gxcad · Post by **Gxcad** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:43 pm

As many of you know by now (by reading the title of this thread if not anything else!

) ATI has released the 9800, 9600, and 9200 graphics cards. Of note was the 9600 will be produced on an advanced .13micron process making this videocard the first WIDELY PRODUCED videocard using the .13micron process. Not only that, but it is not the top of the line card meaning it is likely to have lower clocks than geforce FX (for sure) which possibly translates to low heat! Good news don't you think? Of course I've barely read anything about them yet and its all purely speculation.

-Ken

ez2remember · Post by **ez2remember** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 5:55 pm

I have read a review from a very good source and the Geforce FX is disappointing. It could not rival the Radeon 9700 Pro in terms of performance. Secondly it's louder than a screeming Delta fan @ max voltage.

GamingGod · Post by **GamingGod** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 6:09 pm

yea they are saying that the 9600pro is going to be slower than a 9500pro. Although I will be really disapointed if that is true. And the 9800pro is clearly faster then both the 9700pro and gffx.

Seltzer · Post by **Seltzer** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:58 pm

The 9600 has half as many pipelines, but also has a clock speed of 400 mhz... much higher than the 9500's 275. Hard to tell whether it will be faster or not without a sample card (I checked tomshardware.com, where they only had the 9800).

slippy · Post by **slippy** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:27 pm

if the 9600 does have lower performance than the 9500, i wouldn't mind as long as it's quiet and costs less!

what about the 9200? could that be the perfect quiet card?

GamingGod · Post by **GamingGod** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:28 pm

the 9600pro is supposidly going to come out at $200, probably driving the price of the 9500pro down to $150 or so? I wish the 9600pro had as many pipelines as the 9500pro because it would be as fast or maybe even faster than a 9700pro. Seems kinda stupid to criple the card like that, sorta like they did with the gffx.

slippy · Post by **slippy** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:50 pm

hmm..then maybe a 9500 pro with a zalman heatpipe will be the way to go

chiahaochang · Post by **chiahaochang** » Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:43 am

GamingGod wrote:the 9600pro is supposidly going to come out at $200, probably driving the price of the 9500pro down to $150 or so?

I just bought an Sapphire (OEM) Radeon 9500Pro for $160. The 9600Pro may push the retail 9500Pro to $150 and OEM even less.

I wish the 9600pro had as many pipelines as the 9500pro because it would be as fast or maybe even faster than a 9700pro. Seems kinda stupid to criple the card like that, sorta like they did with the gffx.

I thought the 9600Pro is supposed to have half as many pipelines as the 9700/9800Pro, just like the 9500Pro does. In other words, the 9500PRo and 9600Pro have the same number of pipelines, while the 9600Pro is a better optimized GPU and clocked higher.

slippy wrote:hmm..then maybe a 9500 pro with a zalman heatpipe will be the way to go

That's exactly what I did, bought a 9500Pro and a ZM80A-HP. They both should be here today for me to play with.

what about the 9200? could that be the perfect quiet card?

IIRC the 9000 & 9200 is based off the same GPU as the 8500, so it doesn't have DX9 compatibility. Whether having DX9 compatibility means anything or not depends on the individual user.

jinu117 · Post by **jinu117** » Fri Mar 07, 2003 11:10 am

slippy wrote:if the 9600 does have lower performance than the 9500, i wouldn't mind as long as it's quiet and costs less!

what about the 9200? could that be the perfect quiet card?

I SERIOUSLY doubt that. 9200 might be quiet underperforming card which will be useless for gaming in less than a year is my guess. 9600 probably will be in par with 9500 Pro. (My experience with overclocking 9500 Pro shows more benefits are gained with memory over clock vs GPU core over clock for similar % of overclock). Besides, anything running at that speed in .15 fabrication will be pretty hot. It probably has same heatsink/fan as 9800 is my guess. This makes the card a bad candidate for quiet operation IMO. Wonder how Zalman will deal with the extra heat as I really can't overclock my 9500 PRO's core more than 30 without getting artifacts. (without active cooling that is)