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 Post subject: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:08 am 
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Seagate announced their new roster of 10TB drives today. An impressive lineup. They also revived the Barracuda name, and added two more: Ironwolf for NAS and Skyhawk for surveillance. Not bad choices :!: , relevant to their intended functions.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:20 pm 
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I almost feel like the link to the press release at the bottom was redundant. It's nice to see that there was a comment in the original post of the forum thread, but most casual browser won't see that unless they specifically click through to the forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:21 pm 
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Ask for some sample mike, would be great to see the noise qualities of this new Helium 10tb drives.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:33 am 
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What are the largest capacity hard drives currently being manufactured? My understanding (source) is that big purchasers like Dropbox, Google, Amazon, etc. have access to 14TB drives, but maybe they're now receiving 16/18TB models?


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Maybe... or not: https://storageservers.wordpress.com/2016/04/14/hard-drives-capacity-to-reach-14tb-soon/

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:52 am 
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No articles for a month and a half, and all we get is a press release?

That's disappointing.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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And perhaps a bit more importantly for us silent PC ethusiasts, the monster 16TB Samsung SSD is also available... for a cool $10k IIRC. I wish Samsung had a competitor in that space so prices would plummet. At least 0.5 / 1 TB-ish SSDs are not akin to a highway robbery any more, they only cost the same as a 6-8TB hdd...

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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FYI, a sneak preview: Measured at 1m distance, neither of the 2 Seagate 10TB samples on hand (Barracuda & Ironwolf) raised the ambient level of the anechoic chamber by more than 1 dBA. They increased overall level to around 12 dBA, from the usual 11 dBA. Remember, these are 7200rpm drives!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:17 pm 
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MikeC wrote:
FYI, a sneak preview: Measured at 1m distance, neither of the 2 Seagate 10TB samples on hand (Barracuda & Ironwolf) raised the ambient level of the anechoic chamber by more than 1 dBA. They increased overall level to around 12 dBA, from the usual 11 dBA. Remember, these are 7200rpm drives!!!
damn thats really good news.... cant wait to see the full review.

I hope WD gives you guys some samples of their heliums also, im really looking forward to the WD 8TB Red 5400 rpm SATA III 3.5" Internal NAS HDD, i heard that helium drives has its own signature, like a small chrill that its high pitch, i still fear them some, waiting for SPCR to approved them.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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Press release - and nothing in it 'bout heat. Meh...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:48 pm 
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Received a 10TB Skyhawk yesterday. First impressions - much greater vibration and motor noise than my WD Red 6TB and 8TBs, but pretty quiet seeking. It's not a particularly loud drive broadly speaking, and isn't audible in my closed Fractal Mini on a carpeted floor from a couple of metres away in a quiet room, so I find it just within the threshold of acceptability, but it might not cut it if you have a less well-dampened case or sit closer to it.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there as it's hard to find info on noise ever since old school HDDs became an afterthought for reviewers. Have a 12TB IronWolf on the way and will give my impressions of that when it arrives.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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Thanks for the feeback sneaker

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Have a 12TB IronWolf on the way and will give my impressions of that when it arrives.
Very interested on this drive, looking forward to your opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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Second impression, sitting here on a quiet morning hearing an annoying hum, is less positive. Seems now that the drive has 'settled' a bit on its mount, it's transferring more vibration to the rest of the chassis. I'll be moving it to another bay when the 12TB IronWolf arrives and will report if that makes a difference, but I'd now describe the 10TB Skyhawk as a risky option even for a Fractal Mini. As I said originally, the vibration level, for my one at least, is much higher than my WD Reds (one 6TB, two 8TB) - but the case was initially doing a good enough job preventing it from being in issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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Vibration continues to be a significant issue with the 10TB Skyhawk, and contrary to my first impressions, motor noise has also been audible from a couple of metres away (sometimes the noise fluctuates up and down over a period of around 6 seconds, which makes it more noticable).

I've now had several days with the 12TB IronWolf. Just been down on the floor next to the open case listening to each drive (spinning them up and down individually), as well as at a distance with the case closed. The 12TB IronWolf's vibration is much lower than the 10TB Skyhawk's - probably in the same league as my 8TB Reds - and its motor noise also seems lower. However, its seek noise seems to be a problem. Playing various Blu-rays from the drive, it makes an audible seek noise about twice a second, vs. the Skyhawk's more sporadic, less noticable seeks. I expect some noise for some types of random seeks, but not for that sort of sequential read. Searched for info on AAM settings for these drives, but it looks like that's not a thing any more.

Seems this is my first big HDD upgrade disappointment in the seven years since I got my Fractal Mini. It's been through 2TB, 3TB, 4TB, 6TB and 8TB WD Greens and Reds, and a 3TB Barracuda, basically on a highest-capacity-at-the-time basis, and they've all been unproblematic.

Standard disclaimer about this being based on a sample size of one for each drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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@sneaker thanks for your feedback on both seagates, kinda thought it was going be a little noisy specially being so big and having so many platters, i might try one of those soon though, the demand for space is quickly growing with 4k blu rays. But im also interested on trying the WD 10TB Red 5400 rpm SATA III 3.5" Internal NAS HDD, we should see soon the 12tb version soon since seagate is already there.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate's 10TB HDDs
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Spent quite some time yesterday softening the mount for the Skyhawk using some old Spire Soundpad foam, since the Fractal's rubber grommets aren't the best. It reduced the transfer of vibration, but not enough, and it's a moot point anyway as the motor noise alone is above my threshold (same is unfortunately true for the 12TB IronWolf, even though it's a bit quieter).

Going to pull them out and return to the Red 8TB + 8TB + 6TB setup. Been an expensive and time-consuming lesson, but hopefully someone benefits from the info.


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