leifeinar wrote:I got this case, it needs some work but it got great potentilas if u like to mod.
things ive done:
crappy stock fan is chaged for a 14cm yate-loon 1000rpm
cpu cooler and what i think is the best choice. The AXP-140
the artic cooling S1 fits by a hair
and airflow lets me run HD4870 passive, temps are ok 70 for gpu and 90 vrm.
ATX psu fits, had an gigabyte 800W in there with no problems. this actually allows u to run any nvidia card, even the gtx 295 vill fit, but u nees to do some Work on the case with a dremmel. all high end Nvidia cards are same lenght (267 mm). but it cant be done with a 14cm fan.
the dvd,hdd rack allso needs a round with the dremel.
all in all it has great potential to be really silent
I'll be contacting lifeinair in PM as well, since we already had contact, but I'd like to generally inform about the issue I ran into
And also I have some questions to the community.
I am running a 2,66GHz Intel dual core CPU in the Sugo 06 with the AXP 140 heatsink recommended by lifeinair.
The rest is quite default: Zotac GeForce 9300ITX WiFi, 4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, a Samsung 2,5" HDD and Silverstone DVD R.
Since I do not intend to use a PCIe graphics card, I covered about 2/3 of the left vent slots, as recommended.
I do not know the exact model name of the CPU atm, and I'll add it as soon as I have determined it.
Here are some pictures of the system:
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http img163.imageshack.us/i/sugoleft.jpg/
http img268.imageshack.us/i/sugocover.jpg/
(The red line shows how far the transparent plastic reaches out on the case cover)
My issue:
Using the AXP 140, I run into heat problems, and the system shuts down after
just some minutes in the BIOS, so currently I am very disappointed...
I did not replace the stock front fan by a 14cm version, as user lifeinair did in his AXP 140 setup.
I had PM contact to him prior to ordering the AXP 140 heatsink, and he confirmed his setup is doing fine, so I trusted the heatsink would do its job just fine for me too.
Let me summarize what happened:
I powered the system on, and while doing some initial BIOS settings, it just turned off on me!
I turned it back on, and held my hand behind the PSU vent slots, and to my satisfaction, the air coming out was quite cool.
However, some ten seconds later, the system powered off again.
I opened up the case to check on the heatsink, and to my disappointment, it was indeed very hot by feeling
So, here comes my first question:
Can I take for granted that I mounted the heatsink properly, and also that I used the thermal paste properly, since the heatsink itself is getting very hot?
If I had made a mistake there, and the heatsink wouldn't transport heat away from the CPU, then it wouldn't get much warmer than without the CPU running, right?
Next, I left the system powered off for a while, until the heatsink had cooled down. I powered it on again and hopped into the BIOS to check on the CPU temperature.
To my surprise, it said "N/A" !
Here, a different but neglectable strain of events forks out: I intended to do a BIOS update to maybe fix the unavailable CPU temperature issue, and couldn't localize the PCB version of my model, so I couldn't decide which particular BIOS update to use.
I sent a mail to the Zotac support, asking for my PCB version on one hand (I have PN 288-FA105-001ZT, GF9300 D-E), and asking about the CPU temperature showing "N/A" on the other hand.
I will report when I have response.
Here comes my second question:
Could my CPU be unsupported, or could there be some other CPU-related issue, since the BIOS doesn't display the CPU temperature?
The CPU was running fine in a different setup until now. It used to be a hot system indeed, until I upgraded the stock Intel heatsink/fan with a Scythe Andy Samurai Master. From then on, it was running just perfectly cool in a case with average space and airflow.
Now my final questions:
Would it be wise to seal off all SUGO cover vent slots, to make sure there is a direct and undisturbed airflow all the way from the front intake, over the CPU heatsink, and out through the PSU?
I was thinking that maybe the PSU exhaust is simply blowing out cool air it takes from the vent slots at the top, left and right side of the cover, while the hot air within the heatsink is not really transported away..
Somehow, unless you guys bring new aspects, and unless I buy a different heatsink or maybe a different (less hot) CPU, I don't see any other reasonable attempts to tame the heat problem..
Okay, upgrading the front fan to a 14cm model would be an obvious measure too.
Also, I could (should?) switch to one of the heatsinks used in the test..
Unfortunately, it's even harder to get a GeminII than it was to get the AXP 140..
The system I am making is supposed to be a christmas gift for my mother, who has been using a horrible computer for too long.
Christmas is getting closer, and I need to figure out the most effective and unexpensive solution to get this system up and running with "motherish" stability and reliability, no matter what
Thanks for your opinions in advance.
GRR I can still not post links (need at least three posts), so I had to break the urls. Plz simply copy&paste them