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 Post subject: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:13 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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Thanks for all the good work, Lawrence.

So long, merry Christmas and may a God bless you and everybody.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:13 am 
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Upon reading about the buzzing video card in a final proof of this article before posting, SPCR contributor & forum mod CA Steve had this comment:

If you run FRAPS or similar FPS indicator, you'll find that the Resident Evil coil whine is due to the damn GPU running at >>60fps. See if you can turn V-Sync on or some other frame rate limiting option, and the coil whine should reduce, along with power use, thermals, noise...

Hey Mike, you edited out two important words. Here's the original:
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I bet if you run FRAPS or similar FPS indicator, you'll find that the Resident Evil coil whine is due to the damn GPU running at >>60fps.

It's an educated guess on my part, not a fact. I could be completely wrong and look forward to the retest. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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CA_Steve -- oh, sorry, you seemed so positive I thought those words were unnecessary. I'll put them back. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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For grins, I ran the RE6 benchmark using the PC in my signature. The default setting was maxed out quality @ 1080p and there is a V-Sync toggle - it was off. My GTX 760 gave 80fps in the lighter scenes, 60 in the moderate scenes and 50 in the heavy scenes. CPU use was mostly limited to 2 cores and there was headroom. I turned V-sync on and about half of the benchmark ran at 60fps and the other half at 50fps. So, the GTX 970 is probably seeing 75-85fps in the heaviest scenes. Ok, maybe you didn't need to edit the edit :)

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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Just curious, why the choice of the Noctua NH-D9L over the new NH-U9S? I'm planning a similar build and was curious as to whether it might be better to use the NH-U9S and orient the fans so that they pump the hot air from the CPU out the top of the case rather than out the back of the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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Yet another great article! :D Can't thank SPCR enough for the incredible amount of info you guys put in the past weeks, cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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How is the Zotac 970 at stock? The testing was done with 3rd party cooler.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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I built an NCASE gaming machine for Christmas, and it was the first Micro ITX build that I actually enjoyed. It is amazing what you can cram into that case. I used EVGA GTX 970 ref card with the blower style cooler (model 1970) and was able to fit a full 750W ATX PSU (non-modular) because this version of the 970 is very short. I used the gigantic Noctua NH-C14 top-down cooler with both 140mm fans attached. With two 2.5" drives and an optical drive I had no space for any case fans, but with the blower-style on the GPU and the CPU fans at 400-500 rpm, my temps stayed around 40C under full power Prime 95 (it was a cool day 20C ambient in the room). Within a meter I can hear faint fan noise, likely from the GPU blower because the PSU and CPU fans hardly move. I used the same Asus Z97I Plus with an intel i7-4790 cpu, 2x8GB low profile RAM.


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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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An interesting thought I had with the Noctua cooler is whether or not cardboard ducting to the rear 92mm vent on the case would show much improvement. Maybe a few degrees? There are other coolers than could be tried, I did think that the Silverstone AR02 might be an option because of its 134mm height being just within the 135mm limit of the N1. It's about the biggest tower cooler that could fit thats listed in the SPCR recommended heatsinks list.

Or is a top down cooler better in this case?

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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I did think that the Silverstone AR02 might be an option because of its 134mm height being just within the 135mm limit of the N1. It's about the biggest tower cooler that could fit thats listed in the SPCR recommended heatsinks list.

Maybe a dual fanned NH-D9L could be better (but I guess we should wait for the relevant SPCR review), and even the NH-U9S may turn out interesting.


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Or is a top down cooler better in this case?

An NH-C14 will surely better cool the mobo power circuitry.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet Mini-ITX Gaming Build Guide #2: NCASE M1 Edition
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Good build
But no space to install 3.5 HDD
I'm thinking of using NH-L12 CPU cooler, then the radiator & fan on top of it
Leave out the space for the 3.5 HDD bracket
But CPU cooler fan -> intake, radiator fan -> exhaust
Could have some air flow issues


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Good build
But no space to install 3.5 HDD
I'm thinking of using NH-L12 CPU cooler, then the radiator & fan on top of it
Leave out the space for the 3.5 HDD bracket
But CPU cooler fan -> intake, radiator fan -> exhaust
Could have some air flow issues

Not sure if there's enough space for 2 1" fans + 1" thick radiator + NH-L12.

ncase says 130mm height is available for cpu heatsink. NH-L12 is 66mm tall w/o top fan; leaves 64mm. fan + radiator = 50cm. OK it would fit if you mount the 120mm fan on the Noctua under its fins; you'd have ~15mm left. This could work.

But a 3.5" HDD will definitely increase the SPL. Even the quietest WD Red would add a little low pitched hum of some kind. Personally, I'd go with an external eSATA box and place it as far away as possible (2m, iirc) if "local" mass storage is imperative.

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