Recycled Chieftec

RoGuE · Post by **RoGuE** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:52 am

Monkeh16 wrote: Both the CPU and the chipset (ignore ASRock, the chipset is made by Intel) run at 333MHz stock. You are overclocking if you increase that. It won't do any harm, but it is still overclocking.

Doesn't matter what stock is, most ATX boards made within the last couple years ship with FSB set to 333. That doesn't mean they cant be turned up to 400 without going over spec. If the board manufacturer specifies 1600 FSB, it means you can safely get to 1600 without putting the board out of warrentee. When ASRock came up with this number, they took into account all chipsets on the board.

Monkeh16 · Post by **Monkeh16** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:12 am

RoGuE wrote:
Monkeh16 wrote: Both the CPU and the chipset (ignore ASRock, the chipset is made by Intel) run at 333MHz stock. You are overclocking if you increase that. It won't do any harm, but it is still overclocking.
Doesn't matter what stock is, most ATX boards made within the last couple years ship with FSB set to 333. That doesn't mean they cant be turned up to 400 without going over spec. If the board manufacturer specifies 1600 FSB, it means you can safely get to 1600 without putting the board out of warrentee. When ASRock came up with this number, they took into account all chipsets on the board.

Uh, no, they set the FSB based on the CPU. You're still overclocking, warranty or not, and it will invalidate the warranty on the CPU if they ever find out. If you go above the rated maxmums of any components, you're overclocking.

RoGuE · Post by **RoGuE** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:22 am

You make a valid argument. I suppose it IS overclocking the FSB rating of the CPU, but I will stand by my argument that the board is fully capable of staying within it's rating at that speed.

Now that we got that out of the way...are you really going to suggest he hold back his processor like that? With the proper cooling there is no reason it can't be 100% stable under the increased FSB speed I suggested.

Hell, the new i7's are all the same damn processors. Same die. The only difference is they clock them up for the higher models and ship em as is. the 920 can preform just as well as the 975 with the proper cooling.

Just a little fun fact.

Monkeh16 · Post by **Monkeh16** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:10 pm

RoGuE wrote:You make a valid argument. I suppose it IS overclocking the FSB rating of the CPU, but I will stand by my argument that the board is fully capable of staying within it's rating at that speed.

I never suggested it isn't. I've never seen a P35, P43, or P45 which won't do 400. It's still overclocking.

Now that we got that out of the way...are you really going to suggest he hold back his processor like that? With the proper cooling there is no reason it can't be 100% stable under the increased FSB speed I suggested.

I am not. If you look up a bit, I suggested increasing the FSB and leaving the multiplier as-is. A stock cooler can manage that on a Q6600, any aftermarket cooler is capable of doing that for a Q9650.

Hell, the new i7's are all the same damn processors. Same die. The only difference is they clock them up for the higher models and ship em as is. the 920 can preform just as well as the 975 with the proper cooling.

Just a little fun fact.

So are most Core 2 Duos and Quads. They just bin them at the factory.

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:10 am

To overclock or not, that's the question... =)

BTW. I just got my new PSU, the 1000W Corsair. Heavy as a couple of bricks and pretty much overkill for my system. But! It should handle pretty much anything I throw at it in the future.

Trav1s · Post by **Trav1s** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:24 am

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:35 am

Mr. B · Post by **Mr. B** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:30 am

...pretty impressive feat if you actually got this case to be quiet. I had one of these a few years back and it was quite awful noise-wise. That was the only reason I replaced it with a P180.

RoGuE · Post by **RoGuE** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:45 am

i would shit a brick if you even needed half of that power in the PSU's lifetime.

but nice nonetheless

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:04 pm

RoGuE wrote:i would shit a brick if you even needed half of that power in the PSU's lifetime.

but nice nonetheless

Hehe. It's not just the power, it's actually quieter than my CX400W. And that I didn't expect.

Spirit02 · Post by **Spirit02** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:52 pm

Wilhelm-Tell wrote:Not much beats the quality feel of Corsair products...

... made by Seasonic

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:32 pm

Spirit02 wrote:
Wilhelm-Tell wrote:Not much beats the quality feel of Corsair products...
... made by Seasonic

No, the HX1000 is manufactured by a different company, CWT. Other HX and my CX400 model are manufactured by Seasonic.

blackworx · Post by **blackworx** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:55 am

I read an article which quoted one of the Seasonic head honchos as saying they offer a baseline quality spec to their cross-industry partners, below which they will not go. They also said that only one partner regularly chooses to go above the baseline spec. No prizes for guessing who that is.

Spirit02 · Post by **Spirit02** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:28 pm

Wilhelm-Tell wrote:
Spirit02 wrote:No, the HX1000 is manufactured by a different company, CWT. Other HX and my CX400 model are manufactured by Seasonic.

I stand corrected!
*vows never to state something again, unless he does the research and is sure*

bozar · Post by **bozar** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:57 am

robbie13 wrote:
bozar wrote:You should be able to dremel out fangrills and make place for a 120 mm fan.
I think the picture makes it obvious that's not possible at the back, maybe the front...

@OP

why that case? you got some nice components there, why not something new?

Off course it's possible, just look in my second cheiftec mod, it's basically the same case. You must remove some extra area from the steelplate but it fits a 120 mm fan for sure.

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janzzdave · Post by **janzzdave** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:41 am

nice upgrade you made here

stenben · Post by **stenben** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:42 pm

I love what you did to the old chieftec!

I did a similar mod to my antec 1080 AMG (the same case, more or less) but i have taken my mods to a higher level.

I run an old barton 2500+ with an ati 2600 pro AGP and a samsung spinpoint F1 in it

hot as hell (except for the spinpoint).

I promise you, that in the next couple of days i will put up my rig up here in the forums so that you can check it out. In the post i will also write down the parts that i am "about" to buy and put in my old sawed up antec!

psst! "one of the parts is an antec cp850... probably"

ps. first post.. i have lurked long enough!

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:57 am

stenben wrote:I love what you did to the old chieftec!

I did a similar mod to my antec 1080 AMG (the same case, more or less) but i have taken my mods to a higher level.

I run an old barton 2500+ with an ati 2600 pro AGP and a samsung spinpoint F1 in it hot as hell (except for the spinpoint).

I promise you, that in the next couple of days i will put up my rig up here in the forums so that you can check it out. In the post i will also write down the parts that i am "about" to buy and put in my old sawed up antec!

psst! "one of the parts is an antec cp850... probably"

ps. first post.. i have lurked long enough!

Kool, looking forward to see it.

BTW, I just sold this case and got a Antec Solo instead... I feelt it was a little biggish and not up to date fan-wise.

RoGuE · Post by **RoGuE** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:17 am

lol can i ask what you sold it for?

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:47 am

RoGuE wrote:lol can i ask what you sold it for?

About half the cost of a new Solo... So I'm happy.

RoGuE · Post by **RoGuE** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:19 pm

wow. u are a lucky guy!

nice work lol

Wilhelm-Tell · Post by **Wilhelm-Tell** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:47 am

stenben · Post by **stenben** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:04 pm

I have done a write up on my rig now! check it out!
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