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 Post subject: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:22 pm 
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This is a late upload, i been using this PC for a year now, and never posted, part of it was because i was waiting for the GTX1080Ti to use the Prolimatech MK26, but since all the cards i seen are coming with 2.5 to 3 slots (aside from a few), and most are using new cooler with direct contact to mosfets, so upgrading toward MK26 will be much harder dealing with little heatsinks and actic alumina, so i decided to upgrade the GTX1080, and share some photos of it, not that many as to me its late post.

If you wish to the see the past iterations of the build GameMi v1 and GameMi v2, mostly GameMiv3 was created to test AsRock, and to my surprise it work really well, no issues to report, and their bios fan control is to me the best in the market with 1% variations with 1C changes, no restrictions at all, so its up to the user to setup up everything. Another reason was to test Prolimatech Genesis and MK26.

This is the current hardware running on the GameMi v3,
CASE: Silverstone FT05S (Silver)
CASE FANS: 2x Silverstone AP182 + 1x Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum SS-860XP2
MOBO: AsRock H170 Pro4
MEMORY: Kingston HyperX FURY 64GB 2133 DDR4 (HX421C14FBK4/64)
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Genesis + 2x Thermalright TY-147A PWM
GPU: MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X
GPU Cooler: Prolimatech MK-26 + 2x Thermalright TY-147A PWM
AUDIO: HT OMEGA eCLARO
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 1TB
HDD: WD Red 3TB - WD30EFRX
Perifericals: Logitech G900 + Logitech G13 + Logitech G810 Orion
Central Monitor: Acer Predator XB321HK
Side Monitor: Samsung S22E650D
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit

Here is a couple of pics of the build,
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Had to cut the sides of the TY147A to fit better on the MK26 and to fit the FT05 couple of mm space after the mod, but its working fine, idling at 300rpms =)

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This will probably be the last build i do on the FT05, all high end GPUs are starting to come 2.5/3 PCI with triple fan cooler, which makes the length bigger than what the FT05 allows ='(

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GameMiv3 >> AsRock H170 Pro4 | Intel Core i7-6700K | Prolimatech Genesis + 2x Thermalright TY-147A | Kingston HyperX FURY 64GB DDR4 2133 | MSI GTX1080 Gaming X | Acer Predator XB321HK 4K IPS Gsync | Samsung 850pro 1TB | WD RED 3TB | Silverstone FT05 + 2x Silverstone AP182 | SeaSonic SS-860XP2
Other builds ---> ServeMi | CamMi | SimMi


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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:06 pm 
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Better late than never :)

Then again, I still need to mod my stock MSI card - remove the shroud and replace the fans with something larger and slower.

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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:56 am 
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Do, how's the temps like, and what rpm on fans?

Nice build though, similar to mine!


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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:24 pm 
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Nizr wrote:
Do, how's the temps like, and what rpm on fans?
Im sorry for the late reply, but im not home atm, im out of the country for six weeks so i have not been able to test it that much.

But for what its worth, on the limited time that i have been testing, playing games like Diablo3, WOW, League of Legends and Overwatch (those are the games that i play when i have time), the upgrade of cooler didn't net much, i kinda think the pipes of the mk26 dont like the vertical orientation, with the standard cooler with the AP182 at 550rpms i usually hit 84C on long gaming sessions, with the MK26 i was surprised it hit 90C for a brief time, usually around 80C on load, but at the same time i didnt limit the FPS, so it was rendering at 4k and around 140fps, once i limit them to 59fps the temps never pass 63C, that said, i still have my doubts into the efficiency of the MK26 on an vertical alignment, the cooler is massive, really huge, if you compare it with the coolers that come with aftermarket coolers, its like twice as high and at least one PCI wider, so it has the mass to handle better the heat, but on the FT05 is not that much better, i think its more with the pipes and vertical orientation, but maybe ill take it out when i get home and test it on the open bench to see if i get much better results, that said, the Arctic Accelero IV was much better overall, but i never really tested with GTX1080, but with the GTX780 i never pass 68C playing extended sesions (more than 6 hours). One interesting thing, is that Genesis is much better than i thought, even with the pipes being vertical on a part of it, gaming i never pass 55C, and in prime95 around 70C on stock clocks, this is part of the reason that i feel the GPU is also struggling with the MK26, as now the CPU temps are lower.... and the case fans dont ramp up that much.... ill have to do more testing, just atm too busy working ='(

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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 7:24 pm 
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Instead of a bench test, just rotate the case 90 degrees so the MK26's heatpipes are sideways instead of vertical. See what happens. :)

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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:11 am 
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This looks a great set up. I might do a FT05 build and this is something to look after.


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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:56 am 
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CA_Steve wrote:
Instead of a bench test, just rotate the case 90 degrees so the MK26's heatpipes are sideways instead of vertical. See what happens. :)
Alright Steve, here is the test you suggested, saldy i can discard the MK26 operates better horizontally, the difference was 1 degree well with in the margin of error, i leave you the screenshot of both tests (disregard the rpms on the HWmonitor on the GPU fan TY147A, the max it reaches is 1330rpms but sometimes it glitches the reporting, the 1926rpms is just a false rpm readout).

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I did an extra test, standard FT05 orientation but bumping the rpms on the AP182 to 1300rpms (its loud), and the gains were 2C (disregard the fan rpms on GPUz its again a glich on the reporting).

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I'm going to do more testing, i bought some TY143 (jet engines past 2k rpms) and also have the Prolimatech Ultra Slim Vortex 140s, if i have time ill do the stock cooler, but its a pain to take all the cables out to change the fans on the cooler, would been simpler on the test bench, but i also agree its best to see on the case itself and specially the sound you will be getting, just takes time to do this, ill upload those tests when i finish.

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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:05 pm 
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Bummer that you didn't get any significant improvement.

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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:43 pm 
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CA_Steve wrote:
Bummer that you didn't get any significant improvement.
Idk yet, cant say for sure. Upon testing more, i saw the later test were going higher in temps, like the 1300rpms ap182 didnt neted much, so i decided to re run the 660rpm on ap182, and this time 3 runs (or 4 i don't remember if i counted one lol), but yes it temps went up, all the hardware being stressed over time do have an impact on the inside temp, and thus the test went up, ill leave you screenshot, sadly i didnt do past 3 runs, i feel it will continue going up, slowly but each pass it goes up, until it reached like a equilibrium, thats if you your cooling is enough or you reach the place where you loose the boost clocks. I cut the 143 sides to make them fit as i did the 147A, and mount them, and tested, but this time i let Heaven run for an hour or a little more, for sure more than 15 runs, i watch the last 5 and it never went up, so it did stabilized. I leave you both screenshots,

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No fancy pics, but i took one with the celphone,

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Disregard top rpms on the GPU fans, as the thermalright fans do have some glitches reporting, the most the TY143 reached that i saw was 1730rpms

ill leave a test of the TY143 on fanXpert3, although the PWM of the GPU around 70% gave around 1730rpms, here shows 1800+, probably there are some slight difference between both,

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I was going to test the Prolimatech Ultra Sleek Vortex and the stock MSI cooler, but i want to give some time, i want to see how the TY143 behave in games, as heaven is a pure 100% load test full time, and games are not like that, that said i do game more than one hour, the TY143 past 1000rpms are noticeble but quiet, past 1300rpm start to get louder, around 1700rpms they very noticeable, not jet engine like, but not my flavor of sound, but thats around where they got on heaven. I do like the TY143 never really got past 79C so the boost remain fully, and the fans still have about 1k rpms left on them, not saying i want to experience the liftoff, but i feel gaming its going to be different, as the GPU will not be stressed 100% of the time, but its more to see how it runs, i might still do the other tests later on, but for now thats it.

PS - I now fear how will the GTX1080Ti will be, running hotter and probably louder ='(

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GameMiv3 >> AsRock H170 Pro4 | Intel Core i7-6700K | Prolimatech Genesis + 2x Thermalright TY-147A | Kingston HyperX FURY 64GB DDR4 2133 | MSI GTX1080 Gaming X | Acer Predator XB321HK 4K IPS Gsync | Samsung 850pro 1TB | WD RED 3TB | Silverstone FT05 + 2x Silverstone AP182 | SeaSonic SS-860XP2
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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:28 am 
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Ti: 250W vs 180W. Yeah, could be interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: GameMi v3, FT05 + GTX1080 + Prolimatech Genesis + MK26
PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:05 am 
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Are you monitoring the air temp going into CPU & GPU coolers? I'm going to make a wild guess you have not done this yet, and that the air temp into cooler is higher than room .. especially the GPU. ;)

I'm guessing your 2x AP181 fans are not able to flow /push enough air to keep cool airflow to fans under heavy load. They are rated 130cfm each and TY-147A are rated 73.6cfm each .. that is 260cfm case to 194.4cfm cooler.

I think I would try setting case up on some 40cm tall blocks to see if it improves airflow to bottom. 180mm fan has about 200sq cm of airflow area, so 2x fans have 400sq cm airflow area. 4cm base clearance is about 250sq cm. If you have any plastic spray can caps, they would work .. or hockey pucks, kids play blocks, etc. ;)


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