New project - p212_villinURE212 :-)

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:45 pm

9 of my 14 clients have been blessed with a new protein, p212_villinURE212. I know it's new because F@H LogStats wasn't showing any points for these until I did an Update (which now works, BTW). EMIII shows these as being worth 75 points, but according to F@H LogStats, and confirmed against Stanford's Currently Running Projects, 160 points is correct. If this is true, and these WU's are really worth 160 points, I am going kick some major butt over the next 24 hours.

In fact, I suspect Stanford's page is wrong, because I'm seeing some outrageous numbers for these WU's. I am averaging just under 900 PPD over the last 7 days, but according to LogStats, I am now doing over 1300 PPD (!) and that's with one of my clients working a TINKER!

David

dukla2000 · Post by **dukla2000** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:22 am

Yeah - I've got one. But emprotx.dat is mightily confused: yesterday's version has entries for 160 points, 75 points and 32 points, and right at the moment qd is picking up 6.4 points (cause it thinks it is P212_1fsvunf300) so my XP2700 is currently producing a whopping 0.2 points/hour according to qd

unregistered · Post by **unregistered** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:43 am

I have one of those on my XP2800, looks like a 27-28 hr. project.

mas92264 · Post by **mas92264** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:27 am

75 points seems to make more sense for p212_villinURE212 (EMIII shows 75 pts.) I'm getting this on mine:

30.5 hours - T'bred 2400+ (running at 2.1) ~ 400 ppw

32.7 hours - Barton 2500+ (oem speed) ~ 380 ppw

My 2.8C is having trouble running p212 with another wu at the same time. Over 32 minutes per frame, or about 54 hours to complete.

M

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:50 am

I updated EMIII with the Latest EM Protein Data file and it is now showing these as worth 160 points. I am not complaining! If I get enough of these in the next 7 days, I will be red!

David

CoolGav · Post by **CoolGav** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:26 am

Only have 1 so far on my Barton... Looking good for over 900PPW if the 160 is really true. I think there was one on my P4 this morning, but it was still at 0% after 6 hours of processing. So stopped it and ran the alternative F@H client (from when the SSE2 proteins were around), which has a 33 pointer at only ~500PPW.

I'm selling off a motherboard and my XP2400+, and expect production to keep on slowing as the weather improves. I did some audio recording yesterday and with 5 PCs, amp, mixer, FX, etc my room got rather hot!

tomcat · Post by **tomcat** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:44 am

hmm, got one of those too

19 mins, 14 sec frame time on a XP 2500+

Markus

mas92264 · Post by **mas92264** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:13 am

v00d00 at folding-community.org sez:

They are currently worth 160 points, but will likely drop down to 100 or so at some point.

Following up on David's post over there (mercy, this guy's everywhere!)

M

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:54 am

mas92264 wrote:v00d00 at folding-community.org sez:

They are currently worth 160 points, but will likely drop down to 100 or so at some point.
Following up on David's post over there (mercy, this guy's everywhere!)

M

I try to keep and eye on folding-community.org since that's the closest one can get to the Pande Group itself. Vijay Pande himself is seen there frequently.

I also check in on our closest competitors forums, offer a little help, a few taunts...

David

Hortalonus · Post by **Hortalonus** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:45 pm

I got two of these... EMIII is quoting a 38 minute frame time (they're each being crunched on a Celeron 1.8 ). Looks like my averages will drop a bit for a while.

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:45 pm

Man, I am going to take a freaking BEATING today. Even if I get a 160 pointer in just under the wire, I STILL won't make 500 points today. I should get at least 1400 tomorrow though! I'm tempted to shut down that client for 5 minutes to make sure the WU doesn't get credited until tomorrow, just so I can have an even BIGGER day.

David

Zyzzyx · Post by **Zyzzyx** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:15 pm

Weirdo.

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:25 pm

Zyzzyx wrote:Weirdo.

Hey! I resemble that remark!

David

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:29 pm

haysdb wrote:Man, I am going to take a freaking BEATING today.

Looks like the whole team did, in fact. Our running average was around 22,500/day, and we posted up just 18,668 for April 13th. I hope the 14th is somewhere around 25,000!

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:38 pm

Wednesday will be HUGE. I posted a whopping 312 points today, vs my average before today of just under 900, but I should submit something like NINE 160 pointers on Wednesday plus a 71 point Tinker, plus some other smaller WUs. I figure 1600 at least. [Edit: 1708, at least]

I now have these on 10 of 14 clients.

David

unregistered · Post by **unregistered** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:52 am

160 pts! Get em while the gettin's good.

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:22 am

My P4 Celeron picked one up a few hours ago. Looks like about a 10-15% performance premium versus the smaller units. The only downside is that it's going to be an estimated 50 hours until it completes.

dasman · Post by **dasman** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:06 am

I got 5 of them a couple of days ago, but haven't seen any since

. 3 will be turned in today and 2 early morning tomorrow.

Dave

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:28 am

These units are definitely carrying a "premium". One of my 3200+ Barton's is showing just short of 1000 PPW (993.5) with one. That's ~40% higher than normal. Each of two P4's with HT has one plus another WU, and each machine is putting up well over 1K PPW.

Unfortunately I am down to 5 of these.

David

ColdFlame · Post by **ColdFlame** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:44 pm

What is funny is that my XP 2200+ (1.77 GHz) shows 757 PPW which is very close to your Barton. Figure those perf ratings after all.

993 / 757 = 1.31

2200 * 1.31 = 2882 which means that what AMD thinks is Barton 3200+ is in fact Barton 2800+ taking this WU as a measuring tool.

I know I know FAHLogStats lies about PPW and all that. I just couldn't resist not to stomp on AMD

peteamer · Post by **peteamer** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:43 am

I got me one now.

EM111 says 48:48 for its first guess on WU time.

And 29mins per frame.

On a 2400+ running stock in a board that doesn't support the XP bit.

Looks like time for an investment

EDIT: Just got up and checked F@H Log and it has taken 23:09 for last few frames.
The comp. is left on with nothing running except F@H, anti virus, firewall, MBM (Meltdown protection)and broadband connection overnight.

Quite a difference considering I am 'only' on the WWW, with Outlook running and EM111 as extra's for the 29mins per frame.

EDIT2: cause I said '23mins per WU'

if only

Hortalonus · Post by **Hortalonus** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:25 am

I can't seem to get any 160's on my OC'd machine... dang it! But I've got three of them on the crappy Celeron 1.8's at work!

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:15 pm

Hortalonus wrote:I can't seem to get any 160's on my OC'd machine... dang it! But I've got three of them on the crappy Celeron 1.8's at work!

Well I've got one villin and one Tinker, so I guess it all evens out.

Hortalonus · Post by **Hortalonus** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:22 pm

Hortalonus wrote:I just got one of these and EM3 is reporting that it is now worth 75 points... I'm glad I got a few while they were worth 160!

Nevermind... I updated the protein data file and it now shows 160 points.

isp · Post by **isp** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:40 pm

I think they're still 160, I read that they didn't plan on changing the credit for them. You probably just need to update your emprotx data file...

You can get the latest at Weatherman's site...

ColdFlame · Post by **ColdFlame** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:21 pm

They changed it to 135 points.

isp · Post by **isp** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:38 pm

I'm not crazy, it was 160 before the tinkers were all adjusted!

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:41 pm

The points for EVERY project are getting adjusted. Anyone working a 160 before the points were changed will still get 160 points for it. It's only new issues that will be worth 135 points.

David

ColdFlame · Post by **ColdFlame** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:43 pm

Do they give me 160 when they issue me a WU or when I submit a completed WU back? I'd say when I submit so the WU that I have on my box folding as we speak is worth 135 points now and not 160.

GO BUCKS!!!!

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:47 pm

ColdFlame wrote:Do they give me 160 when they issue me a WU or when I submit a completed WU back? I'd say when I submit so the WU that I have on my box folding as we speak is worth 135 points now and not 160.

GO BUCKS!!!!

Edit: This next statement is NOT correct. Read the next post for the official statement.
Edit2: Turns out this next statement IS correct. Links and quotes are in a later post.

The assignment server knows what the WU was worth when it was assigned, and it knows when it was assigned.

David