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9 Gromacs, each worth 51.4

Post by haysdb » Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:06 pm

This seems odd. My 8 processors are working on 9 Gromacs, each and every one worth 51.4 points. And it's not like they are all working on the same protein, but 8 different proteins.

I might not think anything about it except for a thread elsewhere about how work is assigned, and whether it's totally random.

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Post by ColdFlame » Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:33 am

I must admit I'm still in the dark. What do you mean? :)

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Post by dukla2000 » Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:46 am

That's not impossible: it seems to me you get assigned to a server based on
1) whether or not you have advmethods flag
2) the benchmark score the core calculates for you

If your boxen are set up the same way and similar performance then likely they are all working with server 171.64.122.111 (my 2 Athlons are - both worth 28k points/year) which is currently dishing out the 103x Gromacs. My P3 is slower (about 17k) and is working with server 171.67.89.150 which is dishing 32 point Gromacs to advmethods clients. It all goes wrong when the server is out for a bit and your boxen rotate to another server that only has Tinkers availablle.

[edit]ps - 1 of my boxen just completed a WU. It got its next WU from 171.67.89.149 - project 1024 but still 51.4 points. Figure the bottom line conclusion is their are a lot of 51.4 pointers out there at the moment![/edit]

BTW - that qd utility that is talked about in the finstall script for Linux you aimed me at also has a Windows version. It calculates points/year based on your last 10 WU in queue.dat - I remember a while back you were looking for a more reliable throughput measure than EM etc.

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Post by wgragg » Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:57 am

How does one tell what project his box is currently working on? I have noticed a wide variation in the wu's that are downloaded to the same machine. Some of them, my boxes can whip through in just a few hours, but others of the same size (ie, 500) will take a couple of days.

Is there a way to get some consistency?

Wendell

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Post by haysdb » Sun Jan 04, 2004 9:11 am

It's true that all of my machines would benchmark about the same. The slowest is an Athlon 1800+, the most powerful a P4 2.6.

My Linux machines are assigned to two servers:

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# grep "assigned to" /home/fah/ws*/FAHlog.txt
/home/fah/ws000/FAHlog.txt:[13:08:44] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws001/FAHlog.txt:[04:22:59] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws001/FAHlog.txt:[21:38:48] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[16:43:18] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.111).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[08:21:10] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.111).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[23:40:26] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.111).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[03:48:10] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[06:24:29] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[13:28:26] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws002/FAHlog.txt:[05:49:52] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.111).
/home/fah/ws003/FAHlog.txt:[14:36:26] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws003/FAHlog.txt:[11:01:39] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws003/FAHlog.txt:[07:39:19] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.111).
/home/fah/ws004/FAHlog.txt:[22:18:55] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.149).
/home/fah/ws004/FAHlog.txt:[07:33:15] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.111).
My Windows machines are assigned to five servers:

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171.67.89.149
         .151
   .64.122.111
           114
           116
I am looking at Stanford's Server Status page, but it doesn't tell me very much other than they assign fah, bet, and adv.

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Post by haysdb » Sun Jan 04, 2004 9:56 am

ColdFlame wrote:I must admit I'm still in the dark. What do you mean? :)
I specified during Folding@Home "configuration" that I only want to work on FAH (Folding@Home), not GAH (Genome@Home). I have further specified -advmethods on the command line when I start up FAH, saying I prefer to work on "advanced methods", which means Gromacs, one of the two FAH "cores," the other being Tinker.

In the past, I have gotten mostly Gromacs, but also an occasional Tinker. The Gromacs have ranged in "value" from 20 points to 70 points. Lately I have been getting 100% Gromacs, each and every one worth the same 51.40 points.

There's nothing sinister about this, I just find it "interesting". The assignment used to be somewhat random, but I seem to have gotten "stuck" on 51.4 point Gromacs. I'm not complaining since these units are worth 600 to 737 PPW on my P4 boxes, 429 to 570 on my Athlon boxes.

With a steady diet of these WU's, my total PPW according to F@H Log Stats is 4578, an average of 572 points per box.

David

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Post by haysdb » Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:01 am

wgragg wrote:How does one tell what project his box is currently working on? I have noticed a wide variation in the wu's that are downloaded to the same machine. Some of them, my boxes can whip through in just a few hours, but others of the same size (ie, 500) will take a couple of days.

Is there a way to get some consistency?

Wendell
Wendell, I think if you answer that question you will have answered my question. I seem to have achieved remarkable consistancy, I just don't know why. Perhaps it's because all my machines are folding 24@7 and therefore producing consistant results, and perhaps I am being "rewarded" for that consistancy by the Stanford servers? I don't know what criteria they use for assigning work so I can't say.

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Post by CoolGav » Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:05 am

All three of my linux boxes are assigned to 171.64.122.143. They're a PIII 700, a Duron 800 and an XP2400+, and are all getting Tinkers! By contrast, my Windows boxes (171.67.89.150 - XP2500+ (o/c to 3200) and 171.67.89.151 - P4 @ 2.67) are picking up Gromacs.

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Post by haysdb » Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:30 pm

I guess it was just the alignment of the planets. Now, every single one of my Linux boards is working on WU's worth 18 points.

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