What about situations where wearing a face covering is legitimate. I'm sure that the welder's guild won't take kindly to being told that they can't wear face protection when welding in public. Or how about telling skiiers that they can't wear ski masks on the hill? (ok, I suppose there aren't many ski hills in the Netherlands, but work with me here). Obviously the law is a little broad as conceived right now; I can't see anyone pushing the law through without considering exceptions like that.
:roll: What are your fears based on? Surely it's not the proposed law.
The proposed ban would apply to wearing the burqa in the street, and in trains, schools, buses and law courts in the Netherlands.
You missed this sentence:
Other forms of face coverings, such as veils, and crash helmets with visors that obscure the face, would also be covered by a ban.
No I did not. I wouldn't mind, if they banned me from wearing crash helmets with visors in schools, buses, trains and law courts or streets.
The concealed weapon excuse is an obvious red herring. Banning a face covering will not prevent people from hiding weapons elsewhere ... how many bank robbers do you think would hide their weapon in a mask? How many bank robbers do you think would obey a law against face coverings. They're robbing a bank, for God's sake, they're not going to obey a law that will help them get caught.
First I wasn't going to respond to this, but meh... When I mentioned hiding weapons, I didn't mean they would hide shotguns under the mask. Burqa is basically a huge sack that covers all of the body, there's plenty of free space to hide weapons in. I know that there are lots of other clothes that can be used to hide weapons. It's amazing how much weapons you can hide in loose jeans. But this is not the whole point, loose clothing combined with a mask to hide the identity is just too much. It's not just that I believe that muslims would use it to do crimes. It's just too luring option for anyone
to wear it, for crimes. Not only does it hide your identity and helps to conceal weapons, but it is easy to get rid of, you can wear normal clothing under it. It also makes muslims the prime suspects, making it pretty much ideal for a normal white christian bank robber. And like I said, everyone is so scared of offending muslims, that you probably wouldn't get body searched either...
And yes, robbers will wear face mask no matter what, but at it's a small step towards safety. But safety is not the only reason here.
Like you said, this law targets only a small minority of people. So what's the big deal? It will have only positive effects and not a single negative effect.
This law seems like way overkill, considering the estimated number of women who wear a burqa ranges between 30 and 100 individuals, depending on who you ask (in a country of over 16 million, and 850k muslims). I'm no fan of the burqa but banning it is the wrong way to get rid of it.
This law has very important symbolic meaning. It shows that time has come, when some people Europe have finally asked themselves, why is it that only we only have to adjust to their needs? Maybe it's time that they compromise in return.
Socialists like to label people who vote center-right wing parties as skinhead and neo nazis. But really it's the regular normal people
who are starting to vote right wing parties instead of the socialists, because they have seen that socialist governments in Europe have failed with their immigration and integration policies (who am I kidding, there are no integration policies, since they value their culture more then ours). Suburbs are burning in France. Rapes and violent crimes have increased all over in Europe and people are rightfully scared. Socialist don't have solution, they only blame the natives for being racist scumbags that are causing all the integration problems with discrimination. So it's only rational that people are showing they are displeased by turning their votes to right. Don't expect this trend to stop.
What are we gaining with this law? Maybe a more open discussions concerning integration and conflict of cultures. Maybe the white, christian heterosexual natives have stopped bending over and taking everything up the ash and started demanding that their rights and culture are just as valuable and deserve to be respected just as much. are now acknowledged too.
And fear not this kind of law won't be abused. If it's cold people will surely be allowed to walk the streets with scarfs and veils on their face. Cops are decent people, they are not racially prejudiced people only wanting to harrass people. Abuse would result in discrimination charges. Judges and prosecutors are also decent people. Abuse wouldn't fly in courts and abusers would be punished.