Re: Life Sucks
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:57 am
An attempt to trivialise or whitewash the grotesque and needless suffering being experienced by sentient beings on this planet. A clear sign of desperation.edh wrote:How about you prevent unnecessary harm by stopping this thread?PlanetOfTheApes wrote:This topic (antinatalism) is about the prevention of unnecessary harm.
You may wish to provide evidence of the said trolling. Thanks for posting and all the best.edh wrote:You've made your point, people can look at it if they want. Everyone can see that you're just trolling by carrying on. Whether you have some kind of deap seated childhood issue or are in some other way mentally imbalanced, you've said what you felt you need to say, so don't keep on saying it.
Question to mods: why has this not been locked as a troll thread?
Thoughts that procreation is delivering a child into harm and death? You must have been a very enlightened studentMettyx wrote:This topic is almost identical to my thinking while I was in high school.
I agree that Life is useless and pathetic. I'd rather not create useless and pathetic beings who suffer. Please note that antinatalism and suicide are different subjects/topics.Mettyx wrote: Bottom line, it's useless and pathetic. Either you kill yourself or you don't.
If you set in motion an action to actually kill yourself but can't because you feel a visceral block(I called it biological imperative) most likely you will never kill yourself.
I don't mind thinking about this and other related subjects. I'd say creating beings who suffer is useless and wasteful.Mettyx wrote: Now, while everything said in the OP is true and life certainly is an abysmal state of being which can naturally only conclude with systemic degradation of body and mind(without any purpose other than which you assign for yourself), thinking about it is useless and wasteful.
We can avoid these and other tragic aspects of the human condition by not creating new victims.Mettyx wrote:I imagine when I get older and reach a point when everything will go down hill fast, I will definitely kill myself. As you are probably aware suicide rate amongst older population is way higher than their percentage of general population.
This is of course perfectly reasonable and expected. After all, we have the common sense and humanity to euthanize old dogs who can barely walk but due to immature development of human civilization which still has its roots in superstition we force people the endure the torture of old age.
Who's arguing that a great deal of people are depressed and not experiencing joy? Who said "life is suffering"? Our psychology does not justify or change the fact that procreation is delivering children into harm and death.tim851 wrote:Because a great deal of people are not finding life all that depressing, but enjoying it. You imposition that life is suffering is plainly wrong. Your life may be - but you can do something about that.PlanetOfTheApes wrote:Please explain why you think this topic is "non-sense".
Sentient beings experience varying degrees of negative mental states (suffer) is a fact. 'Suffering of whatever kind or degree should not be caused or perpetuated' is a value judgement.tim851 wrote:It's not a principle, it's an assumption. I don't suffer. If one day I should, it will have been worth it, 'cause my life's been great thus far.Antinatalism is based on the principle that suffering of whatever kind or degree should not be caused or perpetuated, and that human existence necessarily entails suffering that we can neither escape nor justify, least of all by experiencing pleasures. Thus, the only way to end all suffering would be to cease producing beings who suffer.