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 Post subject: Re: Eaarth
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:01 am 
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NeilBlanchard wrote:
6 months worth of rain in California in less than a week.

2" / hour rains in California, causing landslides,
Landslides are likely because of huge wild fires,
Huge wild fires are common because of droughts,
Droughts are happening because the snow pack is shrinking,
Snow packs are shrinking because of lots of heat: both in the summer AND because it is warm enough to rain in the winter *instead* of snowing...

Hmmm...


you talk of droughts during a monsoon?

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huge wildfires were last year and year before. not this year.

wildfires are a natural thing. ground cover grows back. ground cover holding topsoil recovers within a year. heavy rain will cause landslides regardless.

fyi, it doesn't snow in most areas of california. where it does snow, they're getting record snowfall. case in point: http://www.mammothmountain.com/MyMammoth/

don't try to pin any particular weather pattern on global climate change. it's retarded.


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 Post subject: Re: Eaarth
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:00 am 
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Climate is long term; weather is short term.

Lots of rain (6 months worth in less than a week) is different than it has been -- a data point showing possible long term change.

The snow pack is the source of water in the summer, and if the snow pack is melting faster than it is built up, then that is another data point showing possible long term change.

If the small amount of rain that normally come all through the year stops happening, then you get a drought; then that is another data point showing possible long term change.

There is more lightning now, and there is more water evaporation, and there are stronger storms. So, when rain does happen, it is far more intense more of the time than it used to be; and this is another data point showing possible long term change.

More lightning with more drought, then you get more and larger wildfires, and this weakens the landscape's ability to absorb the rains, which are stronger than they normally are, so you get more landslides; which is another data point showing possible long term change.

New and different patterns and more or less precipitation and at different times than what was normal -- is the new normal. In other words, things have changed.

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 Post subject: Re: Eaarth
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:27 pm 
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http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/1 ... drying-up/

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A 2007 panel organized by the National Research Council found evidence that mega-droughts had occurred in the Southwest more frequently than had been thought, and that "drought episodes are a recurrent and integral feature of the region's climate."


droughts occur in the american southwest. it happens. and your supposition that somehow the dry areas of california get regular rainfall is dead wrong. it's extremely irregular.

again, single incidents of weather cannot be pointed to as though they are evidence of climate change.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:31 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02EpAMm8rfo

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