Many thanks to you all - great results!

im333 · Post by **im333** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:23 pm

So,

You may or may not remember me and my questions in the past - complete newbie here.

I have an old-ish rig...Athlon xp3000+, had a Radeon 9700pro, 1bg ram and an Asus A7n8x deluxe2.

Well, I just bought:

Leadtek 7600GT (AGP - it had to be)
1GB more of ram - now 2gb
Zalman CNPS7000b-AlCu
Zalman Northbridge NB47J

I used the stock thermal grease that came with the Zalman's - a bit hard to get the quantity right - come on, I'm new at this! Maybe AS5 will be better - I can't say. The Northbridge isn't very secure, the clips are a bit of a pain to fit tightly!

Just wanted to let you guys know - I'm more than happy!
The system is not MUCH, MUCH quiter than ever before. The 120mm Acoustifan Dustproof is magic, and of coursem the Zalman is on MIN

My system IDLES at:
CPU DIODE (using Speedfan) = 33C
Motherboard = 36C
7600GT = 41C

Under FULL LOAD:
CPU = 39C
Motherbaord = 43C
7600GT = 44C

I had an Antec (60-ish mm) on the front of the case also, with 3 speed settings - used minimum but noticed the temps were actually HIGHER by 2C with it on so I disconnected it! Before you ask, it was installed so that air moved IN through it with the aim of passing through the case and out through the 120mm Acoustifan.

I'm happy with these figures. One thing though - once you get this silent bug - I can see myself getting carried away - now I want absolute silence!

My ageing rig is good for a while yet - I can play BF2 MAXED out! Next system in a few years will no doubt be as silent as possible - water cooling, the whole hog and I will (oviously) be coming back for more help at my favourite forum!

Let me have your thoughts!

im333

spookmineer · Post by **spookmineer** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:24 pm

39 Â°C on load for an XP3000+! That's what my XP3200+ does on idle...

im333 wrote:The system is not MUCH, MUCH quiter than ever before.

Just to be sure: "not" or "now"?

It's odd your motherboard temperature exceeds the CPU temperature.

It's true it's a bug, I'm not nearly half way to making it quiet enough for my taste.

vortex222 · Post by **vortex222** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:22 pm

spookmineer wrote:39 Â°C on load for an XP3000+! That's what my XP3200+ does on idle...

im333 wrote:The system is not MUCH, MUCH quiter than ever before.
Just to be sure: "not" or "now"?

It's odd your motherboard temperature exceeds the CPU temperature.

It's true it's a bug, I'm not nearly half way to making it quiet enough for my taste.

everyones tastes are different. My first real silenceing attempts were great, until a few days later when i heard the computer while tyring to get to sleep..... "must be quieter"....... grumbling under my breath. I spent the next 2 weeks trying to get it nearly inaudible finaly succeding.

Now i just did some upgrades and im back to square 1. Congradulations IM333, and welcome to the club!

im333 · Post by **im333** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:17 am

spookmineer wrote:39 Â°C on load for an XP3000+! That's what my XP3200+ does on idle...

im333 wrote:The system is not MUCH, MUCH quiter than ever before.
Just to be sure: "not" or "now"?

It's odd your motherboard temperature exceeds the CPU temperature.

It's true it's a bug, I'm not nearly half way to making it quiet enough for my taste.

Hehe.....definately NOW quieter!
Yes, 39C on load - at least that's what SpeedFan's CPU Diode reading tells me.

My HDD is noise bugger - Maxtor i think it's a Diamond Max 300gb SATA but I could perhap live wit it; I don' want to spend any more on this system.

im333 · Post by **im333** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:26 am

Now you've got me a little worried about the temp readings - I thought they were correct. There are few readings in Speedfan - the CPU diode is from the Winbond W83L785TS-S sensor and rest are from the ASus ASB100.

I tried taking a screenshot (which I have saved to my HD) but cannot show it to you all as I don't have any webspace!

spookmineer · Post by **spookmineer** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:31 pm

Free webspace here (pictures, movies): http://photobucket.com/

There are a few other free webhosts as well.

im333 · Post by **im333** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:57 pm

Ok, here's the shot

Post by **NeilBlanchard** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:37 pm

Hello,

im333 wrote:My HDD is noise bugger - Maxtor i think it's a Diamond Max 300gb SATA but I could perhap live wit it; I don' want to spend any more on this system.

StretchMagic is pretty inexpensive -- but that's for another thread...

niels007 · Post by **niels007** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:23 am

Its more or less impossible that your CPU is that temperature, but it doesn't matter too much if its quiet and stable

im333 · Post by **im333** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:06 am

niels007 wrote:Its more or less impossible that your CPU is that temperature, but it doesn't matter too much if its quiet and stable

the bios measures it even lower!

anyone hae any ideas as how best to use speedfan with the asus a7n8x deluxe2.0?

im333 · Post by **im333** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:03 am

niels007 wrote:Its more or less impossible that your CPU is that temperature, but it doesn't matter too much if its quiet and stable

Is this more like it?

niels007 · Post by **niels007** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:37 am

Those would be pretty low but possible idle temps. But in the days of Socket A sensor accuracy was pretty low. These days, with utilities like CoreTemp it seems one actually gets fairly accurate temperature readings from AMD64 and CoreDuo chips... Most graphics chips seem to come with fairly reliable temperature sensors as well.

In the old days (socket A

) it could be far, FAR off. It doesn't matter though, it runs stable and quiet enough then great! Only if you want to find the 'real' limit, you'd want some temperature sensors to stick to hot objects to get some real idea of actual temperatures.

Temperatures are overrated

psiu · Post by **psiu** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:43 pm

Actually those temps seem right in line with my findings with Socket-A systems. My wife's 2600 (Barton core) runs up to about 45-50C at load with a Swiftech MCX-462V cooling it. My old 1800 (Tbred-B core) which I usually ran at 2200-2600 speeds (on A7N8X rev2) varied wildly--I could run it up to 70C pretty easily--though that was semi-passively cooled in my P180. However it would pretty easily idle in the 40's as well.

I just checked on the temps on a build I did for someone a few years ago with a 2500 on a A7N8X-X and they run sub-100F temps at idle...125F max.

My wifes is currently on a Gigabyte board and I just switched from an old Asus board (like AMD 760 chipset old!) and the temps are the same from one to the other.

The build I'm putting together for brother-in-law-in-law is idling at BIOS and in BartPE under 40C. Will be even lower with S2KCtl loaded on it (

).

If you run Socket-A, you should give S2KCtl a whirl...especially on ye old A7N8X, it worked on mine, it should work on yours

spookmineer · Post by **spookmineer** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:15 pm

XP3200+ idles at around 39 - 40 Â°C.
Load (Prime95) 54 Â°C.

Idle temps are low because of S2KCtl, I still love it!

Modded VGA card is still loudest part, so turning down the HS fan is no use to me, but it currently does 2250 RPM (80 mm).
[Weird - GPU fan max speed is about 2200 RPM as well but makes more noise]

im333 · Post by **im333** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:38 pm

I'm guessing I don't need S2KCtl?
Doesn't it place strain on PSU? Any other clear DISadvantges of this?

psiu · Post by **psiu** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:04 am

S2KCtl is a software program that enables the bus disconnect feature on the Socket A motherboards--very few of them had this. There were a few motherboards that would let you use software to also control voltage, fsb, bus disconnect...but not many.

I've used it now on Nforce 2, AMD 760, and VIA KT133(???) chipsets. It won't affect load temps at all, but when idle (which is what the CPU probably is most of the time) my results have a 5-15C drop in temps.

Doesn't strain the power supply as far as I know...don't really see how it would.

psiu · Post by **psiu** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:06 am

Disadvantages, as with most software you will install on Windows, are utter devastation and havoc with your OS

. But I have yet to have a problem...

spookmineer · Post by **spookmineer** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:49 pm

After using it for a while, I have found no disadvantages of S2KCtl at all.
Somehow, I thought it *might* make my PC a little slower but this isn't the case.

All it does (from end user perspective) is lower the idle temps, a bit like Cool'n'Quiet for newer AMD's (although it works in a different way).

Highly recommended.