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 Post subject: Best 6850/6870 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:54 am 
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I'm looking for a new videocard, budget about <= 150 euro (in het Netherlands). Is there a (significant) difference between different vendors for the 6850? It doesn't use that much energy, especially at idle.
The MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GD5 Power Edition/OC looks good. Any thoughts?

BTW, are there any comparions between the HSFs of different vendors for videocards? Didn't find any at SPCR.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:59 am 
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Olaf van der Spek wrote:
I'm looking for a new videocard, budget about <= 150 euro (in het Netherlands). Is there a (significant) difference between different vendors for the 6850? It doesn't use that much energy, especially at idle.
The MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GD5 Power Edition/OC looks good. Any thoughts?

As for every IT products yes, there's a significant differences between vendors, with reference to noise.

IME that R6850 is very quiet at idle, while a bit less good at load: but definitely a very good choice (I don't know if it's even the best one).
I can add that the TwinFrozr II cooler is noticeably quieter than the Cyclone, IME, but it's available only for the more powerful (and expensive) R6870.

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BTW, are there any comparions between the HSFs of different vendors for videocards? Didn't find any at SPCR.

No, there isn't. But if you mind, I think that you may get enough reliable information (at least about noise) from the german reviewer HT4U.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:08 am 
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Also the ASUS DirectCU 6850 which received the Editor's Choice award here at SPCR.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1126-page6.html

Though some users have since complained about that product.
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=61455&view=viewpoll

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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:24 am 
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quest_for_silence wrote:
Olaf van der Spek wrote:
I'm looking for a new videocard, budget about <= 150 euro (in het Netherlands). Is there a (significant) difference between different vendors for the 6850? It doesn't use that much energy, especially at idle.
The MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GD5 Power Edition/OC looks good. Any thoughts?

As for every IT products yes, there's a significant differences between vendors, with reference to noise.

Even at idle? SPCR wrote the 6850 is only using 16 W...
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IME that R6850 is very quiet at idle, while a bit less good at load: but definitely a very good choice (I don't know if it's even the best one).
I can add that the TwinFrozr II cooler is noticeably quieter than the Cyclone, IME, but it's available only for the more powerful (and expensive) R6870.

The 6870 TF2 isn't available anymore (in NL).

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BTW, are there any comparions between the HSFs of different vendors for videocards? Didn't find any at SPCR.

No, there isn't. But if you mind, I think that you may get enough reliable information (at least about noise) from the german reviewer HT4U.

Does he do English reviews?

The 6870 might be an option too. How's the HD-687A-ZDFC (dual fan)?


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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:09 am 
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Olaf van der Spek wrote:
Even at idle? SPCR wrote the 6850 is only using 16 W...

Even at idle.

Olaf van der Spek wrote:
Does he do English reviews?

No: but you can use Google Translate if you need.

About the XFX, I don't know it, but if it's similar to the XFX BE it's way noisier than a TF-II.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
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quest_for_silence wrote:
Olaf van der Spek wrote:
Even at idle? SPCR wrote the 6850 is only using 16 W...

Even at idle.

That's disappointing. Seems they still don't pay enough attention to noise. What's the XFX BE?
And what brands / coolers are recommended for 6870?
There's the GV-R687OC-1GD and R6870-2PM2D1GD5/OC, but I'm not sure about noise.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:17 pm 
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Olaf van der Spek wrote:
What's the XFX BE?

The XFX Black Edition, it has a dual fan cooler also which is noisier than the MSI TwinFrozr II.

Olaf van der Spek wrote:
And what brands / coolers are recommended for 6870?

I can't help: maybe the ASUS Direct CU II may work well, as it works well for the 6950. But it's just a supposition.

Olaf van der Spek wrote:
There's the GV-R687OC-1GD and R6870-2PM2D1GD5/OC, but I'm not sure about noise.

I don't know the Gigabyte cards, but that MSI is a no-go, noise wise.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850/6870 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:28 pm 
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If you have the room in the case, and are willing to spend a bit more on a passive 6850 from Powercolor:
http://www.amazon.de/PowerColor-Radeon- ... 762&sr=8-1
I have one and am not using it passive, but with a 12 cm Scythe Slipstream at ~600 rpm zip-tied to the beefy radiator.
It's not audible over my other ~600 rpm Slipstream fans, but keeps the card relatively cool in games.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:00 am 
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quest_for_silence wrote:
I can't help: maybe the ASUS Direct CU II may work well, as it works well for the 6950. But it's just a supposition.

I don't know the Gigabyte cards, but that MSI is a no-go, noise wise.

What's so bad about the MSI?
ASUS has a 6870 DC, but not a DC2.

Tzupy wrote:
If you have the room in the case, and are willing to spend a bit more on a passive 6850 from Powercolor:

If I go for a 6850 I think the Cyclone is quiet enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850/6870 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:43 pm 
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I'd recommend the ASUS EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5/V2. And in case it turns out to be to loud, i'd carefully dismount the fan and plastics. Then i'd strap a 120 fan@5v on the cooler and check load temps.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850/6870 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:06 pm 
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I have the MSI Cyclone PE and at idle I cannot hear it over my case fan. When gaming it is very noticeable. However I did not set the settings to "silent" (there is a physical switch on the board that I neglected to switch from performance to silent, now it is almost impossible to reach without removing the card). There are also extensive options in the bundled software to mess with the fan settings, so if you took some time youy could probably make it quieter. However I doubt you could ever really make it that quiet at load and it could certainly never be truly "silent."

The only comparison I can offer is sitting next to my Xbox when both are on, the Cyclone is a little quieter than the Xbox when the Xbox is also at full load, i.e. playing a game (as opposed to browsing stuff on xbox live or something.)


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 Post subject: Re: Best 6850/6870 (without third-party HSF)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:25 pm 
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That's disappointing. There are lots of different Xbox 360 versions though, so the comparison doesn't tell much.


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