changing fan on GTX 1050?

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changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:33 am

I bought an Zotac GTX 1050 Mini for my HTPC and it's just a little louder than I would like.

No reply from Zotac.

what about replacing the fan with something aftermarket?

my case is Silverstone GD05, bought the smaller card thinking about a smaller case in the future.

still have time to RMA if there is something that would be quiet.

thx

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by CA_Steve » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:12 am

Probably a stupid question - have you tried a gfx card fan utility program (like MSI's Afterburner, etc) to see if you can alter the fan profile / lower the speeds? What min speed are you seeing?

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by edh » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:31 am

Accelero S3 should be able to cool this passively. If not, strap a 120mm fan to it.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:30 pm

CA_Steve wrote:Probably a stupid question - have you tried a gfx card fan utility program (like MSI's Afterburner, etc) to see if you can alter the fan profile / lower the speeds? What min speed are you seeing?

I just tried MSI Afterburner and doesn't seem to control the fan. I read something that some cards may not have a fan control chip?

it sits at 45% so not too bad, I didn't see the fan RPM anywhere including GPU-Z? just 45%.

in the future are there certain cards that allow fan speed adjustment?

Thanks again

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by CA_Steve » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:42 pm

Nearly all gaming cards should allow for fan profile adjustment...if they don't we need to make a list of "don't buy this frigging card".

Return it if you can. The MSI Gaming would be a better choice. It's longer but still only 9" and dual slot. Passive at lower loads.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:15 pm

CA_Steve wrote:Nearly all gaming cards should allow for fan profile adjustment...if they don't we need to make a list of "don't buy this frigging card".

Return it if you can. The MSI Gaming would be a better choice. It's longer but still only 9" and dual slot. Passive at lower loads.

i better double check before we blacklist Zotac. let me see what I can come up with.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by BSim500 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:14 am

CA_Steve wrote:Nearly all gaming cards should allow for fan profile adjustment...if they don't we need to make a list of "don't buy this frigging card".

Return it if you can. The MSI Gaming would be a better choice. It's longer but still only 9" and dual slot. Passive at lower loads.
This is the same problem I mentioned over on the 1050Ti thread. Except for the Gigabyte D5 (for which there are still no reviews), all other 1050/1050Ti single fan versions come with those cheap & nasty 2-pin fans with high min idle rpm limits baked into the VBIOS that prevent manual tuning of sub 1000rpm speeds in software (that's why Mingus can't see the rpm's). The only real adjustment lies in 4-pin fans + 0db idle variants which are nearly all dual fan. Eg, Zotac's 2-pin cards seem to run at a minimum 1300rpm which is far from "silent". Pretty disappointed with the GTX 1050 series coverage. Everyone reviews only the MSI Gaming versions and most single-fan reviews done in a 40db noise floor are quite frankly useless from an acoustic perspective.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:30 am

yes, no lower than 45% and clearly audible, I have 2 weeks left to RMA the card, wanted something smaller in case i move to Mini-ITX board/case, right now just a quiet card would be nice. my GD05 case will hold about all.

Gigabyte GTX 1050 D5 is making sense at this point. will figure out where to buy.

thanks for the post!

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:49 pm

Installed Gigabyte D5 1050 and it is nearly silent at 30% 920 rpm. looked like 4 wires to fan and also looks like i can set lower than 30% if needed.

newegg will charge 15% restock and shipping back on the Zotac 1050.

Zotac never replied to my email.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by BSim500 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:59 am

mingus wrote:Installed Gigabyte D5 1050 and it is nearly silent at 30% 920 rpm. looked like 4 wires to fan and also looks like i can set lower than 30% if needed.
That's great news Mingus. Could you please confirm that you can manually set 20-29% fan speeds in MSI Afterburner? And what does the fan sound like between 30-35% (any "growling" or other such noise if it changes speed)? I did manage to test the EVGA 1050Ti (min speed 30%) and when it moved from 30-35%, it had this horrible howling sound to it. (That was a 2-pin fan though). Thanks!

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:59 am

i uninstalled MSI Afterburner since it was very quiet stock 35%, I can install it later tonight, I want to ski today :-)

i am picky about fan noise and it's quiet. when i play 4k video I think it went to about 1100rpm and was still quiet. I will double check everything tonight.

also, i *did* get a reply from Zotac on Nov 30th and missed it - this was the reply:


Hi Sir,

Thanks for contacting ZOTAC Technical support.

With the freeze tech, your fans should not spin until you hit 64c threshold.
What temperature reading do you get on your GPU?

What is Freeze Tech?

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by CA_Steve » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:07 am

Probably their unneccessary branding of what we'd call passive for low loads.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by BSim500 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:47 am

mingus wrote:What is Freeze Tech?
"Freeze" is Zotac's brand name for the semi-passive "fan-stop" feature where the GFX card will turn off its fans when under a certain temperature. It comes as standard on "premium" cards like GTX 1060's and up and dual-fan "AMP's" in general. However, all the EVGA, PNY, Inno3D, Zotac and MSI's Mini-ITX size 1050/1050Ti's all have poor quality 2-pin fans that can't use it. The only exception is the Gigabyte D5 which uses a proper 4-pin fan like the 1060 Mini-ITX and your fan should not spin at all when idle. It sounds like that Zotac person who e-mailed you got confused.

After sending back one EVGA 1050Ti, and reading your comment on returning the Zotac due to fan noise, it's good that you're finding the Gigabyte quiet without any modifications. It's also absolutely ridiculous though that half the 75w cards are noisier than the 120w ones for the sake of saving $1 on 2-pin fans whilst every tech reviewer repeats the useless "you probably won't hear it over the rest of your system" 'advice'. I really do miss SPCR's own proper acoustic reviews.

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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by mingus » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:32 pm

checked some numbers tonight, MSI Afterburner doesn't do much, card seems to have a mind of it's own. if I uncheck Auto and set it at 50% it still stays at 36%.

fan runs at 0% until it reaches about 60C then the fan come on at 35% or 36% a little over 1000RPM when playing 4k movie, about 6-8% GPU usage.

stays quiet. if it was in an desktop machine sitting right next to you might be able to hear slight fan, nothing like the old card that was clearly audible from other side of room.

seems to like to stay at 60C, hope that is not too hot.
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Re: changing fan on GTX 1050?

Post by quest_for_silence » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:11 am

mingus wrote:checked some numbers tonight, MSI Afterburner doesn't do much, card seems to have a mind of it's own. if I uncheck Auto and set it at 50% it still stays at 36%.

Give a try to the Gigabyte XTREME ENGINE (I don't know if it may do anything, but it's their dedicated Pascal tool).

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