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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:49 am 
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I'd like a fanless/zero noise "mini" pc to be used as a home workstation (virtualization,
sw development, video, graphics etc.) with possibility of using it with two monitors.
After digging around on the web, I've identified the following possible solutions (in increasing order
of cost/performance):
(a)Taking an Intel 5G nuc eg. NUC5i5RYB (i5 5250U) 15W + Newton-S-RY-i5 case and making it fanless
(b)Something similar on ebay/amazon (with OEM boards) 15W i3-5010U -> i7 5500U
(c)Asus H170i/H170i-pro/Z170i + quad core i5 6500T/ i7 6700T 35W + Impactics C3LH case
( (a) and (c) are basically solutions which I found on the atlastsolutions webpage)

I don't have any experience using pcs of (a) and (c) class to know exactly
how much better one is over the other and whether I would need the higher performance (I usually
overdo it with getting better components :D ), nor do I have experience
with the OEM mother boards on ebay - so would appreciate any suggestions
on what would be good enough for my requirements. I see that the 7th gen nucs
are coming out with even more 4k features and optane technology , so not sure
if it's worth buying high performance now.


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 Post subject: Re: fanless workstation
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:00 am 
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Welcome to SPCR.

What s/w are you using? Are you doing any 3D rendering/stuff that needs heavy graphics support / acceleration?

Akasa supports some newer NUC boards..through Skylake at the moment. Probably 3+ months out for the new Kaby Lake....and I recommend waiting to build newest gen systems for at least three months to let the firmware bugs settle out.

Note that these builds rely on 15W CPUs...which are the laptop variety. Great for many uses, but if your apps require heavy lifting, you'll be trading off time for the small footprint.

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 Post subject: Re: fanless workstation
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:20 am 
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Thanks,
As far as graphics goes, I'm not using much at the moment except for
sketchup, but will work with photoshop and various other software
both in design and photo/video editing (nothing full time, but I don't
want to spend the money and end up with a "slow donkey" :D
My (c) option is 4core/8thread using an ASUS board - will this be
somehow out of date also in 3 months - I presume ASUS will put out
some newer boards to follow with Kaby Lake ?


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 Post subject: Re: fanless workstation
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:26 am 
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I just noticed some posts on another forum about the Z270 chipset - so
I presume the boards are available. Overall, from what you write, I somehow
conclude that a build (using 4core processor) rather than the nuc in a silent
case is the way to go - right ?


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 Post subject: Re: fanless workstation
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:46 am 
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Photoshop uses gfx acceleration for display as well as for some functions (filters, etc). However, I think the integrated gfx won't slow down your tasks as Intel has really upped the iGP functionality over the last several generations.

Video editing: really depends on what s/w used and how much time you spend using it. Handbrake, Vegas Pro, and Adobe Premiere all can benefit from more CPU horsepower. Some functions can be greatly accelerated using Intel's QuickSync functionality in the CPU, or if using Open CL - the GPU can also greatly accelerate some functions. Tradeoffs for speed/quality can apply.

So, if you are looking for maximum flexibility, yeah I'd suggest going with a 65W desktop i5 and not the clock nerfed 35W T processor. Modern CPUs are all about clocking up/down as needed for the task and only use the power needed. A 65W class i5 uses the same power as the 35W T up until it needs to push the load higher for a heavier task.

Which leads to something like the HDPlex cases. Some configurations can handle up to 95W CPUs, so a 65W one is no sweat. Unfortunately, their site is down atm...but here's the main link. There are a couple of reviews here you can search for as well as a 2016 build thread. Also provides the possibility of adding a discrete lower power gfx card if needed later.

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 Post subject: Re: fanless workstation
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:37 pm 
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Another thing...if part of your tasks include encoding/decoding 4k video, HDR, and/or Wide Gamut (rec.2020) it might be worthwhile to wait a few months for Kaby Lake. Here's an overview of the updated gfx engine @ Anandtech.

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 Post subject: Re: fanless workstation
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11141/log ... nuc-review


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