Beli ninja's system improvement

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:39 pm

Hi there! My first topic so greetings to all and thank you for any replies.

I would appreciate any advice on this system.

CPU: Intel E6750
MB: Gigabyte P35-DS3 Rev.1
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB PC2-6400
GPU: GeCube X1950XT 256MB
HDD: Seagate 7200.10 320GB
PSU: Tagan Easycon TG430-U15
DVD: Optiarc AD-7203S
Case: Antec Solo
Rear Fan: Noctua NF-S12-800

I am having trouble with noise. After stooping all available fans the main candidates are: the PSU fan and the GPU fan (I replied on a similar topic concerning the PSU). I plan to change the GPU fan with the Accelero S1 (passively) and replace the PSU fan with one of the recommended 120mm fans. I am also thinking of replacing the CPU fan but don't know what to choose. Passive or active, and if active blowdown or parallel. This is connected with my chipset temperature.

Idle temp (Noctua @ 1200rpm)

CPU 32C
chipset 45C
HDD 43C
GPU 70C

Idle temp (Noctua @ 800rpm)

CPU 32C
chipset 48C
HDD 45C
GPU 67C

Is the chipset temp too high? If I install the S1 I'm guessing the temperatures will go up. If I put a blowdown heatsink it will cool the chipset and RAM better but how will it effect the noise since there will be 2 big fans drawing the air out of the case near it. And so on.... too many options to write

Thanks

Post by **NeilBlanchard** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:40 pm

Hello & welcome to SPCR!

You are spot on: replace the PSU fan with a slower/quieter model (Scythe Slipstream, Globalwin NCB, Yate Loon, etc.). Also for the GPU fan -- your choice is correct.

I'd imagine that after fixing those two that you will want to get a better/quieter CPU heatsink and fan.

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:52 am

Thanks Neil. I hope I'll get my hands on S1 soon.They are impossible to get in Croatia.

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:30 pm

Does anyone have any experience with Antec Solo + Scythe Ninja + Gigabyte P35-DS3 Rev.1 combination? Or Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (instead of Ninja). I did read about some problems with Ultra-120 and the Solo case. And I would like to keep the airflow mostly horizontal. On the other hand, I am not sure if Ninja would fit (see my first image). Thanks

laserred · Post by **laserred** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:54 pm

I just did the P150 with an EarthWatts 380 with the Ninja passively cooled on a Biostar TF-7050 M2. Seems to work OK, idle temps are around 30*C, load temps around 38-40*C for an Athlon X2 4600+. I was fairly pleased, and yes, everything fits fine. I didn't even do MikeC's mod to cordon off the PSU to just the upper bays.

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:08 am

thanks laserred but my concern is with the gigabyte board since it has the CPU socket positioned really high on the board and I'm worried it is too close to the PSU intake.

sorenbro · Post by **sorenbro** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:45 am

I have the Solo with a ninja installed on a E6750 with the Gigabyte motherboard, and it a very succesfull combination. You should also try and undervolt you CPU, that way it will be much easier to cool the CPU. I droped the voltage from the stock 1.35V to 1.2V and have experienced no stability problems.

I have an AC Accelero installed on my 8800GT with no active fans, and the temps stay in the low 60s when gaming.

Exhaust is a Scythe S-Flex 1200rpm @ 5-7V, so its running at around 600rpm.

The PSU is a Corsair 520W

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:42 am

thanks a lot...

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:47 pm

finally! I got my hands on a S1 today. I'll see how the temps behave these days. my room temp is quite high (29-32 C) so I'm not too happy.

andyb · Post by **andyb** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:09 am

I would suggest removing the 2 blanking plates directly below the graphics card, this will draw air over the S1's fins.

Andy

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:52 am

thanks Andy, will try.

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:56 am

has anyone tried mounting an exhaust fan behind the PCI slots to cool the S1? it seems a 100mm would fit but would there be any significant benefit?

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:28 am

I have an option to replace either the cpu or the gpu. the E6750 with E8400 or the x1950xt with 3850/3870. my question is which choice would be better if I'm trying to make my rig a bit more power efficient without downgrading the computing power of the system.

thanks

thejamppa · Post by **thejamppa** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:11 am

you don't notice much difference between 6750 and 8400. There's much more difference in 1900XT vs. hd 38x0... including power draw.

However HD 4670 seems to be quite equal with HD 3850 in games. So you may want to consider HD 4870 and get rid of PCI-E cable... HD 3870 is very fine choice and has already ram and VRM sinks in most models in place.

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:21 am

thanks thejamppa, I think all go with the 3870, probably...

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:11 pm

well I managed to swap the PSU fan with a SlipStream without getting electrocuted. I also changed the Noctua with a SlipStream. for now I like it but unfortunately I didn't document the temps before swapping stuff today. now I just have to decide between Xigmatek and OCZ Vendetta2. Xigmatek is in high demand here so they are ot of stock and it's unknown when the new shipment will arrive so I'm very inclined to the OCZ. any reason not to take it?

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:54 pm

well, I believe I'm getting close to my goal. the latest addition is the OCZ Vendetta 2 with a SlipStream 500 fan. my CPU temps have decreased by 3 degrees celsius but my HDD and MB temps have increased by roughly the same amount. my next task is to try and direct the airflow in the case with some modifications like closing some gaps in the case, sorting the cables etc.
here are some pics, hope it proves useful to someone considering any of the mentioned components. feel free to ask for any details or more detailed pics

thejamppa · Post by **thejamppa** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:20 pm

Looks very nice beli ninja. I like your current project. Very nice fan swap ^^

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:03 pm

couple of days ago I played something on my rig and I realized that my passive x1950xt reached 130 C on the voltage regulators. so I tied a SlipStream on it and it worked like a charm. I think it reached around 70 C on load.
as a side note, the slipstream blocked SATA channels 0 & 1 on my gigabyte MB.

after this episode I decided it was time for a change, so I got a 4670 and mounted the accelero S2 and a slipstream500 onto it. I'm just thrilled with it. my room is at around 22C and my card is at around 30C

beli ninja · Post by **beli ninja** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:53 pm

few pics

the x1950xt

& HD4670