Is it possible to have my pc totally fanless. What would be the best cpu cooler to run the x2 3600+ fanless, or even with 600rpm 120mm fan. For the psu I am planning a fanless psu (would 300 watts be enough). Is there any matx boards that allow to lower vcore. Will the x2 ever run stable at 1.1v for vcore.
Amd x2 3600+
DDr2 2gig 667 do I need 800mhz
Asus Nvidia 6150 board
Raptor 74gig in a silent box
DVDRw external.
Thanks
Best 0db cpu cooler for amd x2 3600+
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Best fanless cooler - Ninja. Period.
I idle at 31 and reach 55 after an hour of Orthos, ambient is 21 degrees. And my CPU is 89W TDP and OC'ed to 2400 MHZ w/o raising the stock vcore. Your CPU will most probably be the EE version with 65W TDP - that's even better.
I'd say that your planned rig will be fine with only a single exhaust 120mm fan @ 600-700 RPM. Most probably your HDD will be the "loudest" component - even tho it's, uhhh, "enclosed".
I'd guesstimate your power draw at hardest load to be app. 70W DC taken from the PSU, meaning 85W at the wall. If you reach 60% of that in idle it'll be a lot. EDIT: hmm, OK, so let's make it 80W or even 90W under load, taken from the powerator - it's still next to nothing and won't change the thermal conditions in any noticeable way.
300W Fortron Zen will be waaaay overkill for your rig
You can safely use a Pico PSU.
I idle at 31 and reach 55 after an hour of Orthos, ambient is 21 degrees. And my CPU is 89W TDP and OC'ed to 2400 MHZ w/o raising the stock vcore. Your CPU will most probably be the EE version with 65W TDP - that's even better.
I'd say that your planned rig will be fine with only a single exhaust 120mm fan @ 600-700 RPM. Most probably your HDD will be the "loudest" component - even tho it's, uhhh, "enclosed".
I'd guesstimate your power draw at hardest load to be app. 70W DC taken from the PSU, meaning 85W at the wall. If you reach 60% of that in idle it'll be a lot. EDIT: hmm, OK, so let's make it 80W or even 90W under load, taken from the powerator - it's still next to nothing and won't change the thermal conditions in any noticeable way.
300W Fortron Zen will be waaaay overkill for your rig
You can safely use a Pico PSU.I was able to undervolt an X2 3600+ to 0.975v at full speed (1.9GHz) on an ECS RS-485M-M. The case I used for that system was an Antec NSK3300. I had one 92mm Nexus on the lower intake fan mount that ran at 7v, and a Globalwin NCB 120mm at 5v as the exhaust fan. I used the stock cooler at 7v. My load temps never went above 32C during a full round of Orthos Prime, and the CPU is totally stable at that voltage. The ambient temperature was about 21C (70F). With a Ninja and undervolting (possibly underclocking), you should easily be able to meet your needs.
If I were you I'd reconsider the enclosed Raptor. 
I have a Raptor in a Scythe Quit Drive in an otherwise just about inaudible TJ08, and it is BY FAR the loudest component. Compared to a naked Raptor, enclosing it does make a big difference, but the noise it makes still completely drowns out my fan noise.
I have a Raptor in a Scythe Quit Drive in an otherwise just about inaudible TJ08, and it is BY FAR the loudest component. Compared to a naked Raptor, enclosing it does make a big difference, but the noise it makes still completely drowns out my fan noise.-
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I agree. the only fanless solution is if you have no case. THis actually can be done if you mount your system underneath your desk upside down. then, dust wont collect and all is well.
mikec pointed out that a undevolted 1ghz centrino chip can be passively cooled without fan movement.
well, heck, why not make a p1 system? I didnt have a fan on my chip back then. Throw linux on it and like 32 megs ram
Some would laugh.... but my laptop is a 150mhz pentium 1 from compaq (back when they made amazing laptops that cost 4000+ dollars). Yes, it is old. It works well though on windows 98se.
mikec pointed out that a undevolted 1ghz centrino chip can be passively cooled without fan movement.
well, heck, why not make a p1 system? I didnt have a fan on my chip back then. Throw linux on it and like 32 megs ram
Some would laugh.... but my laptop is a 150mhz pentium 1 from compaq (back when they made amazing laptops that cost 4000+ dollars). Yes, it is old. It works well though on windows 98se.
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yeah, one in one out, fanless psu, fine and dandy
i like nexus, and papst
the new amd chipset mAtx standard, like the 690G has a massive amount of features on it yet is tiny. I dont know how the wattage of the boards are, but they are passive shrugs.
asus has a cool one, i duno if it is undervoltable though
i like nexus, and papst
the new amd chipset mAtx standard, like the 690G has a massive amount of features on it yet is tiny. I dont know how the wattage of the boards are, but they are passive shrugs.
asus has a cool one, i duno if it is undervoltable though
The 800 rpm Scythe is nice in that it's low rpm at full volts.
A Zen is way sweet-IF you REALLY plan. I've sketched up some unconventional homebuilt ideas-with a 3600 Brisbane and a Zen. Lately I'm fascinated by the 220 mm fans at <400 rpm,used with a shelf type sink-Dominator or Gemini. A Zen can live seperate from the mobo-with the big fan overlapping both chambers. It is then the only fan.
Raptor? My plan A would be eSATA. You can the have the fast but noisy bugger an extra 6 ft away,you still want to be careful to have your external adequately cooled,and somewhat contained or muffled.
A Zen is way sweet-IF you REALLY plan. I've sketched up some unconventional homebuilt ideas-with a 3600 Brisbane and a Zen. Lately I'm fascinated by the 220 mm fans at <400 rpm,used with a shelf type sink-Dominator or Gemini. A Zen can live seperate from the mobo-with the big fan overlapping both chambers. It is then the only fan.
Raptor? My plan A would be eSATA. You can the have the fast but noisy bugger an extra 6 ft away,you still want to be careful to have your external adequately cooled,and somewhat contained or muffled.
First of all, forget the Raptor. Not only it's a waste of money because speed difference in real use is negligible, it's also noisy. Hard to imagine a more pointless buy for a quiet home system. If you want high performance, take 7200rpm 16MB cache 250 or 400GB (not 300) Samsung, and that's just like what everyone around is using.
For full fanless, why not use open chassis? Take a random case, remove the side and/or top wall, better both (or, for old cases, that part altogether). For safety you might use a mesh instead, better some polymer (so it poses no risk at all). Drape it over the opened wall, and you've got a well ventilated open case system. Maintenance is vacuum cleaning or "blowing" it once in a while to clean dust.
Overclocking and fanless don't go together well. They might if you can exchange and select the "right" CPU, not in any other case.
For full fanless, why not use open chassis? Take a random case, remove the side and/or top wall, better both (or, for old cases, that part altogether). For safety you might use a mesh instead, better some polymer (so it poses no risk at all). Drape it over the opened wall, and you've got a well ventilated open case system. Maintenance is vacuum cleaning or "blowing" it once in a while to clean dust.
Overclocking and fanless don't go together well. They might if you can exchange and select the "right" CPU, not in any other case.
I'm in the market for a HTPC myself, and here's what I've been considering so far. My needs are similar to yours. I haven't been able to locate the right CPU cooler, which is what's holding me back.
The idea is to have a single low RPM fan on a Akasa EVO-120 V2 (AM2 compatible) pointing up towards the powersupply. The powersupply I had in mind was a Fortron Zen 300. Since there's a minimal gap between the powersupply and the Akasa's heatsink/fan it would basically act as one unit, with the CPU's heatsink and fan being inside the PSU. If necessary I could build a duct. I'd seal off the rear case exhaust (and every other hole as well) and cut a hole in the bottom of the case for the single fan to draw cool air from.
I think it'll be able to cool a X2 3600 properly, but I can't tell for sure. My HTCP needs are minimal, so a motherboard + CPU + ram is all I'd need. If I locate the EVO V2 and start putting this thing together, I'll let you know how I get on.
The idea is to have a single low RPM fan on a Akasa EVO-120 V2 (AM2 compatible) pointing up towards the powersupply. The powersupply I had in mind was a Fortron Zen 300. Since there's a minimal gap between the powersupply and the Akasa's heatsink/fan it would basically act as one unit, with the CPU's heatsink and fan being inside the PSU. If necessary I could build a duct. I'd seal off the rear case exhaust (and every other hole as well) and cut a hole in the bottom of the case for the single fan to draw cool air from.
I think it'll be able to cool a X2 3600 properly, but I can't tell for sure. My HTCP needs are minimal, so a motherboard + CPU + ram is all I'd need. If I locate the EVO V2 and start putting this thing together, I'll let you know how I get on.