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 Post subject: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:58 pm 
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I have an old computer here and about all it's used for these days is web browsing, playing games on Facebook, etc. the heaviest load it ever gets is some DVD ripping and video file compression, both of which I leave run overnight so don't care how fast it does it.

Unfortunately it was on the floor in the basement when we had a flood. It was about 4 inches deep in water. It was off at the time and not badly harmed. At this point it still works other than it beeps at least three times on booting up, sometimes more and needs to be rebooted several times when that happens, also some of the USB ports are faulty.

The motherboard in it is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130055 I could just replace that and I'm fairly certain the system would work, these are not available other than used so I'm looking for recommendations on what would work with the CPU and RAM chips that I have;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820145590
Also I require the motherboard to have a co-ax digital audio output to connect to a surround sound receiver.

Otherwise I could replace all three of these components, any recommendations of what to get would be welcome. I've always preferred Intel products. I would also prefer a CPU compatible with the cooler that I have ,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835185038

The power supply was already replaced last year, so is a relatively new product. The video card is working fine. The hard drive was already upgraded to 1 TB. thanks for any help

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:56 pm 
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865 chipset :)

Not many Socket 775 motherboards still on the market. Mostly the newer G41 and G43 chipset boards. You can see 'em at Newegg and pcpartpicker.com. Don't see any with coax SPDIF connector. That's more of a P45-priced mobo...and don't see any out there offhand.

Maybe there's a used PC shop near you and you can pick up a cheap mobo there. Otherwise, it's new build time. You don't need much processing power. A Baytrail board could work for you. [url=Check out the viewtopic.php?f=28&t=66777]thread.[/url]

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:19 pm 
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Interesting thought. Have been playing Hearthstone on it a lot, would one of those have enough of a GPU for that? The old 8800GT card in it handles that well enough. I was thinking to just move it to a new MB.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:01 pm 
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Well, if you're really interested in socket 775 boards, I have a gigabyte ep45-ud3p motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358) which seems to have an spdif port, and it appears to be compatible with your cpu. I also have an asus p5e-vm hdmi board, which also has an spdif output, but it's a micro-atx board. Anyway, if you're interested in either board, send me a message, I can give them to you pretty cheap, they've just been on my shelf for a few years.


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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:16 am 
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I should have mentioned. I don't mind spending some money if it will get me a significantly better computer. A MB/CPU/RAM set for $500ish could be okay.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:13 am 
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Baytrail GPU might/might not cut it for Hearthstone. The GPU in the i3 is in the ballpark of your ancient 8800GT. Yep, 10W to do what your video card does with 100W. The GPU in the AMD A8-7600 is maybe 20% faster. Upside to the i3 is Quicksync - if your transcoder can use it and it's generally faster at CPU tasks than the A8.

Don't know if you can get an adapter for the Ninja Plus.

a8-7600 + mobo = $160-210
i3-4130/i3-4330 + mobo = $190 - 290ish

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:45 pm 
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still debating options... How much would one of those old 775 boards cost (shipped to Iowa) otherwise I am considering

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130693
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819117446
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231428

and if I go that far anyway, this too;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820147248

basically just keeping the case & HD and making a whole new computer, using the 8800GT for now & replacing it too before long.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:33 pm 
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I've got that mobo and SSD - they've been rock solid. See my signature for build thread. Samsung Magician utility is great. Alternative is Crucial CX100 256GB for similar performance and data write protection in power loss - if you don't have a UPS.

Step away from the taller heatspreaders for easy clearance with coolers.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:17 pm 
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I see you have an I5 CPU. I know the stat differences in an I5 vs an I3, but what real world differences might I notice?

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:06 pm 
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i5 vs i3: None at all for your at-the-computer uses. 50-70% faster for the video transcoding. To put it in perspective, an X264 HD benchmark (1st pass) shows the 3.5GHz i5-4690 @ 121fps, the 3.7GHz i3-4360 @ 83fps, the 2.66GHz Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 60fps, and the 3.3GHz Core 2 Duo E8600 @ 47fps. Quicksync not used in this test. Wander Anandtech's Bench for more comparisons.

More intensive games (not Facebook :) ) can make better use of 4 physical cores than 2 cores with hyperthreading. That's my driver (that and the ability to multitask a game + chat + itunes+ browser windows + downloading content).

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
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hmm, a browser, plus a movie playing plus 2 different IM programs, plus hearthstone all at once is a pretty common use for this thing, so maybe a quad core would be a good idea?

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:03 pm 
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It's a toss-up. You'd probably be fine with an i3. If you opt for heavier duty games, then you might like the i5.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:54 pm 
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Good enough, i3 it is. I'm guessing my old cooler is not going to be usable? I see conflicting reports. One says a 775 cooler will go right on an 1150 board with a set of screws, another says the hole are not in the same places? What is the go to cooler for an i3 these days? I am not looking to overclock, just want it quiet.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
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bburk wrote:
One says a 775 cooler will go right on an 1150 board with a set of screws, another says the hole are not in the same places?

The 1150 holes are the same of previous 1155/1156, but they are differently placed with reference to LGA775 platforms. Anyway, lots of cooler has universal mountings in order to fit different platforms.

About which cooler, you may start giving a read to the relevant SPCR section: according to PC Part Picker the least expensive coolers (among ones with low speed fans and of decent quality available in U.S.A., so I guess in Iowa too) should be the Nexus LOW-7000 R2 (low profile, universal mountings) and the Arctic Cooling Freezer i11 (tower style, Intel mountings only), BUT check the availability of a proper fan header on your mobo before taking any cooler.

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 Post subject: Re: repair parts for old comp.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:21 am 
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I know some modern ASRock motherboards has the socket 775 holes in addition to the 1150 ones.

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