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 Post subject: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:10 pm 
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I'm interested in a fanless build for my office and was really interested in the AMD Ryzen chips for the performance they offer for the money. I've heard that a more suitable CPU from AMD for SFFs is coming out soon, is that true?

The system is going to be used for regular office duties but also Adobe Premiere Pro processing which really brings the current system to its knees.

I was looking at the Seacom DB4 which looks like a beautiful case and wanted to build a system around it. What's the ideal CPU to use with this case? Would an AMD threadripper CPU work? I'd like to make this system a little bit future proof if possible.

Any input or advice appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:29 pm 
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The DB4 case will accept a 65W TDP CPU...with an option to upgrade to a 110W CPU. There is no option for GPU cooling, so you'll need a CPU with integrated GPU. Unfortunately, the Ryzen and Threadripper parts are CPU only. The Intel i5-8400 (6 cores, 6 threads, 65W, integrated GPU) is a possibility as is the i7-8700 (6 cores/12 threads, 65W). The latter might run a little hot with sustained editing/rendering/transcoding and the std. 4 heatpipes.

Another thing to consider, Premiere Pro can make use of GPU for acceleration. So, a dedicated gfx card might be considered.

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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:31 pm 
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Thanks for the help.
So, no way to add an active GPU to this system and make it work with a threadripper?


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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:42 pm 
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If you want a setup without a dedicated GPU, build arround a i7 8700K, it will compete with ryzen 1700.

Now if you want still fanless build with ryzen and dedicated gpu, then consider something like Calyos FANLESS PC / Workstation

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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:24 pm 
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Abula wrote:
If you want a setup without a dedicated GPU, build arround a i7 8700K, it will compete with ryzen 1700.

Now if you want still fanless build with ryzen and dedicated gpu, then consider something like Calyos FANLESS PC / Workstation


Yes, but I've read a user online who used this GPU with his Ryzen CPU: http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdeti ... E&lang=eng

Wouldn't this work with a Ryzen Threadripper too?


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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:49 pm 
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habusho wrote:
Yes, but I've read a user online who used this GPU with his Ryzen CPU: http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdeti ... E&lang=eng
I'm not too sure the link works, when i click it goes to a 470 that has a fan. The only i remember from sapphire fanless is the ULTIMATE R7 250 1G D5, and it should work.

habusho wrote:
Wouldn't this work with a Ryzen Threadripper too?
Any recent videocard, 16x PCIe dedicated GPU should work with Ryzen or Coffee Lake or even Threadripper, its a standard that all comply into. Atm im building a AMD Threadripper 1950x with a MSI GTX1030 fanless, but its just a place holder until volta, its more a capture/render/editing workstation, but it wont be fanless, im just trying to make it as quiet as i can without sacrificing performance.

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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
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I saw a post online where a person built a system using an AMD 1700 with a Sapphire Pulse ITX RX 570 4GD5.
He under-volted the GPU. He removed the stock fan on the GPU and mounted the Streacom heatpipe on it and it seemed to work perfectly. I was thinking of doing something similar.


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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:56 am 
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habusho wrote:
I saw a post online where a person built a system using an AMD 1700 with a Sapphire Pulse ITX RX 570 4GD5.
He under-volted the GPU. He removed the stock fan on the GPU and mounted the Streacom heatpipe on it and it seemed to work perfectly. I was thinking of doing something similar.
I dont see why it wouldnt work, you are undervolting the card, might also need to underclock (depends on your silicone lotery if it can stand without underclocking). Again depends on your needs and what you are trying to accomplish.

As an option, if you go away from the steacom idea, and you still want a fanless gpu, check Palit GeForce GTX 1050 Ti KalmX

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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
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There's also HDPLEX. Be sure to see the supported motherboard list for all of these cases...sometimes the CPU placement isn't where it needs to be in order to work with the case and heatpipes.

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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
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CA_Steve wrote:
... you'll need a CPU with integrated GPU. Unfortunately, the Ryzen and Threadripper parts are CPU only. ...
For now, yes. Raven Ridge (Ryzen with integrated Radeon GPU) will be out in a few months.


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 Post subject: Re: Interested in a Ryzen - Fanless System
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Olle P wrote:
For now, yes. Raven Ridge (Ryzen with integrated Radeon GPU) will be out in a few months.

Call it a Feb launch for desktop Raven Ridge. Then add another two months to let the usual bug fixes/BIOS updates/driver updates settle out. So, sure. If the OP wants to wait two months and be a beta tester, or 4 months for a mainstream solution, then there's a possible kick ass AMD APU. However, he may still want a discrete gfx card for Premiere Pro acceleration.

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