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 Post subject: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:46 pm 
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I'm looking for a quiet but powerful 17" laptop. My old Macbook is dying, and I hated the noisy fans, so I'm looking for something quieter that can still deliver.

It's primarily a programming laptop: I'm a programmer, I want it to be compile, run VMs, have tons of memory, etc. But I don't care about gaming at all for this thing, so the sensible thing seems to be to get a laptop that doesn't have a dedicated GPU. Sadly, those seem to be incredibly rare at 17 inch. They're all either for gaming or for industrial design, with those special Quadro GPUs.

I've looked at everything from the Thinkpad P72 (outstanding quality, but heavy and has a Quadro GPU I don't need), LG Gram 17 (very light, but also light in specs, build quality probably not as good), and even the ASUS ROG ZEPHYRUS S GX701, which is a gaming laptop, has an expensive GPU I don't need, an awkward keyboard, but does pay special attention to cooling.

The stupid thing is, laptop reviews pay attention to everything except noise. I have no idea where to even start looking. Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:23 pm 
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There's rumors that Apple is releasing a 16" MBP this fall..perhaps September.
Notebookcheck is a decent site for laptop noise comparisons. There's the search page if you want to do a deep dive on specific traits.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:32 pm 
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I think the LG Gram 17'' is the best choice atm for your needs if you want to go into Windows. Else another MBP or steve suggestion into 16'', there are also rumors of Dell XPS 17 comming soon.

But my real suggestion is post on NBR forums, fill the your petition with the sticky ### What Should I Buy FORM (Must Read Before Posting!) ###. they will give you much more options than us.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:34 pm 
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Thanks for both suggestions.

I would like the new laptop to last me a long time (my old Macbook is from 2011), and the LG Gram 17 sounds a bit flimsy to me, and I fear its specs aren't as good as I might need.

The upcoming 16" MBP certainly sounds interesting, but I'm actually trying to move away from Apple. I'm not too happy with their direction. Also, I need it now and not in a couple of months. Still, it's an option to keep in mind. I have been really happy with my old Macbook, after all.

A Dell XPS 17 might well be exactly what I need (if it's quiet, that is), but that's only next year, and I need one now.

I'll check out the NBR forums.


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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:12 am 
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One thing to keep in mind is there are lots of business oriented laptops, specially from DELL, LENOVO and HP, and in most cases these laptops are more rugged and durable laptops, backed with better warranties, but at the same time they are no thin or quiet as a standard for this segment. LG breaks the mold in terms of having what you want, probably without the ruggedness, i still think is the best option as long as you take care of it, i never buy buisness grade laptops, most of the time i end up with gaming laptops and i travel 3 of 4 weeks of the month, flights, roads (tought ones where only 4x4 can enter), and i still manage fine without buisness grade laptops, and most of my laptops i keep for 4-5 years, but im careful with them.

Good luck on NBR, hope you find what you are looking for.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:56 pm 
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That's a useful perspective. I seem to want both the advantages of a business laptop and the advantages of a home or gamer laptop, and those may not go together.

I don't entirely understand why, though. Surely business people would also prefer a lighter and quieter laptop? I understand ruggedness and lightness kinda conflict with each other, but at least quietness should be possible? Or maybe quietness in a laptop is impossible with anything but an anemic processor, unless you make sacrifices like the awkward keyboard design of that ROG Zephyrus to allow better airflow in a tight package.


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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:30 am 
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Business user/corporate laptops tradeoffs: Seldom need a discrete GPU, so that cuts the thermal load in half. Battery life is king, so that can increase the size/bulk. Ruggedness might be nice from the IT guy's viewpoint, but a traveler would rather have a less weighty anchor in his briefcase. In the corporate world, though, the individual road warrior doesn't get to pick his laptop from whatever is available in the world - he gets to pick from one or two that the IT dept and purchasing have decided to standardize on.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiet, heavy-duty 17" laptop
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:41 pm 
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Well, I don't think I need a discrete GPU, so that cut is fine with me. The problem is that all 17 inch Thinkpads (which I would prefer) do have a discrete GPU: an Nvidia Quadro GPU. Not exactly useful for me. I wish they made one without a GPU, but there doesn't seem to be any place for that in their lineup.

I'm fine with some weight. Or short battery life. I mean, low weight and long battery life are both nice to have, but I can do without them.

And there are plenty of light weight corporate laptops. The Thinkpad X1 Carbon, for example, is pretty light.

In the end, there are plenty of self-employed programmers who do get to pick their own machine and can afford to pay for a good one. I have a hard time believing I'm unique in my wishes for a laptop, so I'm a bit surprised nobody is selling what I need.

I've taken my question to the NBR forums, but no reactions there yet. So far the SPCR forum is turning out to be more useful to my quest for the perfect laptop.


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