RS780 board availability
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In the anandtech article it is said the first iteration of hybrid crossfire will not support powering down the discrete video card at idle. Have we reports that it does or does not now that the boards are shipping? And if it doesn't, is it something that will be enabled later with driver updates or is this something that will be requiring a silicon revision later?
Newegg is now selling the Gigabyte board for $100:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 0&Tpk=780g
Note they have the wrong product images.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 0&Tpk=780g
Note they have the wrong product images.
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directcanada.com has them for 86$:
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?s ... e=GIGABYTE
So finally, can anyone know if the hybrid crossfire can turn off the discrete card at idle or in 2D (no thanks aeroglass).
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?s ... e=GIGABYTE
So finally, can anyone know if the hybrid crossfire can turn off the discrete card at idle or in 2D (no thanks aeroglass).
Found this review at THG, they cover many aspects of the new 780G:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/04/ ... g_chipset/
Hmm, overclocked the GPU from 500 to 950 MHz. I wonder how mcuh a TR HR-05 IFX would add...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/04/ ... g_chipset/
Hmm, overclocked the GPU from 500 to 950 MHz. I wonder how mcuh a TR HR-05 IFX would add...
Blog entry from Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=404
Sounds as though they'll be having some interesting reviews there shortly including looks at video quality/performance etc.
It doesn't look as though the NVidia stuff will be out for another month or so though.
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And another pretty decent review/comparison to an Intel platform:
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14261
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=404
Sounds as though they'll be having some interesting reviews there shortly including looks at video quality/performance etc.
It doesn't look as though the NVidia stuff will be out for another month or so though.
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And another pretty decent review/comparison to an Intel platform:
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14261
That review at Toms Hardware almost sold me on the 780G, but I'll still wait for Anandtech's review.
EDIT: Tom's ramblings about the 780G's power consumption don't really tell the whole story. My guess is that the 780G easily consumes more than its predecessor when decoding video or running 3D graphics. Which is okay, as long as it doesn't cause problems in less ventilated cases. I'm hoping Anandtech will be more thorough in this regard.
EDIT: Hmm... Techreport has a review up and while it's generally very positive, it seems AMD still hasn't designed a solid southbridge. The SB700 has a few problems that really shouldn't be there.
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14261/1
EDIT: Tom's ramblings about the 780G's power consumption don't really tell the whole story. My guess is that the 780G easily consumes more than its predecessor when decoding video or running 3D graphics. Which is okay, as long as it doesn't cause problems in less ventilated cases. I'm hoping Anandtech will be more thorough in this regard.
EDIT: Hmm... Techreport has a review up and while it's generally very positive, it seems AMD still hasn't designed a solid southbridge. The SB700 has a few problems that really shouldn't be there.
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14261/1
To see 780G offerings at a glance, check this link periodically:
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Motherboa ... =False&f8=&
AMD just updated it today to coincide with CeBit opening day.
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Motherboa ... =False&f8=&
AMD just updated it today to coincide with CeBit opening day.
Newegg has added offerings from ECS and ASUS. The ECS board is a full ATX version. Compared to the Gigabyte board, the ASUS board has no firewire, but it has a more hefty NB heatsink so it's something to consider if the heat issue in the production Gigabyte board is a concern for you.
EDIT: link to the three 780g boards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 0g&x=0&y=0
EDIT: link to the three 780g boards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 0g&x=0&y=0
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The GeForce 8200 equipped ASUS M3N78-EMH HDMI is now available here in Sweden. I was just about to order it when I found out that the board doesn't seem to offer any [BIOS] CPU voltage control whatsoever. It's quite baffling that ASUS never seem to get CPU voltage options just right. Either they're missing completely or they're limited. What harm would it cause them to just enable the damn setting in the BIOS and provide a good range?
Guess I'm back to waiting for Gigabyte's GF8200 board before I choose either that or the GA-MA78GM-S2H.
Guess I'm back to waiting for Gigabyte's GF8200 board before I choose either that or the GA-MA78GM-S2H.
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ZZF lists the ASUS board at a modest price of $399.99:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... e=10008049
This must a limited edition with gold-plated everything
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... e=10008049
This must a limited edition with gold-plated everything
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I'd also like to know if anyone has any other input on this. Granted, the HD3870 can be undervolted, and will probably use as much power in idle as the integrated video would, still, I'm curious as to whether this feature is available.Spare Tire wrote:In the anandtech article it is said the first iteration of hybrid crossfire will not support powering down the discrete video card at idle. Have we reports that it does or does not now that the boards are shipping? And if it doesn't, is it something that will be enabled later with driver updates or is this something that will be requiring a silicon revision later?
I downloaded the Asus manual and it appears newegg.com had it wrong. According to the manual the board does have a gigabit LAN.frank2003 wrote:According to the newegg specs for the ASUS board it comes with only a 10/100Mbps LAN. How could ASUS screw up so badly???
I'm disappointed at the lack of availability of other 780G boards after all the hype. It's been days after the official announcement at CebIT and the only real choices we have are Gigabyte and Asus. Anyone have words on other board makers?
Theres tons of Jetway boards in Oz.frank2003 wrote:I downloaded the Asus manual and it appears newegg.com had it wrong. According to the manual the board does have a gigabit LAN.frank2003 wrote:According to the newegg specs for the ASUS board it comes with only a 10/100Mbps LAN. How could ASUS screw up so badly???
I'm disappointed at the lack of availability of other 780G boards after all the hype. It's been days after the official announcement at CebIT and the only real choices we have are Gigabyte and Asus. Anyone have words on other board makers?
If Anandtech blog is right, we would have wait to till the end of March for the likes of abit, Asrock, Foxconn, and MSI (in alphabet order). Be patient, they are coming!frank2003 wrote: I downloaded the Asus manual and it appears newegg.com had it wrong. According to the manual the board does have a gigabit LAN.
I'm disappointed at the lack of availability of other 780G boards after all the hype. It's been days after the official announcement at CebIT and the only real choices we have are Gigabyte and Asus. Anyone have words on other board makers?
But, where's the Biostar now? In my opinion, Biostar & abit made top-notch mATX boards beating most BIG guys in AM2 690G/7050 days.
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But in one of those articles there's a list of all the planned 780g/v boards that are going to be available, and there wasn't a single Abit board on the list...was the list wrong?loimlo wrote: If Anandtech blog is right, we would have wait to till the end of March for the likes of abit, Asrock, Foxconn, and MSI (in alphabet order). Be patient, they are coming!
But, where's the Biostar now? In my opinion, Biostar & abit made top-notch mATX boards beating most BIG guys in AM2 690G/7050 days.
Abit A-S78H, a mATX 780G board being spotted in Cebit. 780G does amazingly on off-loading Blu-rays, pretty impressive low-cost HTPC platform. The problem is, when will Biostar & Abit boards come to market?ryboto wrote: But in one of those articles there's a list of all the planned 780g/v boards that are going to be available, and there wasn't a single Abit board on the list...was the list wrong?
SPCR has an excellent detailed review of the Gigabyte board, with comparsion to the Asus 690G board. Link here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article807-page1.html
To me the big surprise is the increased power consumption for Blu-Ray playback over the 690G software solution.
To me the big surprise is the increased power consumption for Blu-Ray playback over the 690G software solution.
AMD has just added the Asus board to the list. Comparing the Gigabyte and Asus boards, I see the only differences are 1. the Gigabyte board has firewire, and 2. the gigabyte has 5 SATA2 + 1 eSATA, whereas the Asus has 6 SATA2. Link here: http://products.amd.com/en-us/Motherboa ... d=80&id=86frank2003 wrote:To see 780G offerings at a glance, check this link periodically:
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Motherboa ... =False&f8=&
AMD just updated it today to coincide with CeBit opening day.
What you won't see is the larger NB heatsink on the Asus as has aleady been mentioned. Tough call which one is better...
Well if the Tech Report's note on AHCI issues with the SB700 southbridge is correct, and it, unfortunately, does not work out-of-the-box in Vista, Asus may have wisely avoided a pitfall there. AHCI is essential for the hot plugging part of the eSATA spec, and if users are going to face problems with it, who are they going to blame?
The NB heatsink is nice.
Another difference to note is that the Asus board has an inferior audio codec (ALC883 vs. ALC889A w/ DTS Connect) and lacks a back panel S/PDIF connector.
The NB heatsink is nice.
Another difference to note is that the Asus board has an inferior audio codec (ALC883 vs. ALC889A w/ DTS Connect) and lacks a back panel S/PDIF connector.
Another difference may be the support for CPU vcore control. If the ASUS RS780 board is like its brother, the GeForce 8200 equipped Asus M3N78-EMH HDMI, it lacks any sort of vcore control. Whether ASUS will remedy this or not is another question. I wouldn't simply assume it, though.line wrote:Another difference to note is that the Asus board has an inferior audio codec (ALC883 vs. ALC889A w/ DTS Connect) and lacks a back panel S/PDIF connector.
Good points on the additional differences between the asus and gigabyte. Here's another: Asus uses AMI BIOS and Gigabyte uses Award BIOS. I'm not sure if one is better than the other.
I read through the Asus manual, and here's what I found:
- It supports S/PDIF out but only through an optional adapter and it takes up a back panel slot.
- It supports CPU voltage control in 0.025V increments. I'm not sure if this applies only to overvolting only, though.
- It supports AHCI and has software for creating driver disk for different Windows OSes (Vista32/64, XP/XP64).
- On virtualization (a subject discussed in another thread), the Asus has a setting for SVM (Secure Virtual Machine mode). I assume it's the same as the Virtualization setting in the Award BIOS used on the gigabyte.
I don't quite understand why Asus tried to cut corners by requiring additional slots to get all the outputs. Their 690G was a good contender but it turned me off because it required a slot for HDMI output.
I read through the Asus manual, and here's what I found:
- It supports S/PDIF out but only through an optional adapter and it takes up a back panel slot.
- It supports CPU voltage control in 0.025V increments. I'm not sure if this applies only to overvolting only, though.
- It supports AHCI and has software for creating driver disk for different Windows OSes (Vista32/64, XP/XP64).
- On virtualization (a subject discussed in another thread), the Asus has a setting for SVM (Secure Virtual Machine mode). I assume it's the same as the Virtualization setting in the Award BIOS used on the gigabyte.
I don't quite understand why Asus tried to cut corners by requiring additional slots to get all the outputs. Their 690G was a good contender but it turned me off because it required a slot for HDMI output.