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 Post subject: P43 vs P45 chipset
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:40 am 
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I was going to get a ASUS P5Q which has the P45 chipset.
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?s ... cture=ASUS
I noticed yesterday that the ASUS P5QL-E has become available.
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD9089
The main difference seems to be that the P43 only supports one PCIe 16x v2 and the P45 supports one PCIe 16x v2 or two PCIe 8x v2 and the P5QL-E is about 25$ cheaper.

However, the P5Q I was looking at has one PCIe 16x v2 slot so the second slot is not important to me.

The bios seems to support the same overclocking options.

Has anyone heard anything ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:44 am 
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P45 vs P43
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I wonder if the P43 consumes less power than the P45 chipset. The P45 uses a bit more power than the P35 mobos, wich is strange as the P45 is 65nm en the P35 is 90 nm. Also they always test the power consumption of the Deluxe versions of the P45 motherboards and never the power consumption of a 'normal' board like the P5QL-E. The power consumption of boards might be influenced by features (like no crossfire, RAID,...) so maybe a lower level board like the P5QL-E might be more energy efficient. Does anyone have info are numbers on this?


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nafets wrote:
The only problem with the board that I can see is the terrible ATX12V plug placement. Other than that, you can save a bit of money going with it...


Thanks for the info nafets. I also noticed the placement of the ATX power connector, that's actually the only reason I might buy a Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L instead of a Asus P5QL-E. The first Asus board with the power connector on the right is the P5Q Pro which is with crossfire and allot of other stuff I don't need. It's also more expensive.


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I will soon find out how awkward the power connector is on the P5Q, which sits between the CPU and the PCI-E.

I was not confident in Gigabtye after the length of time they took to resolve the latency issue, which still appears unresolved for P35 boards and worried they might give the P45 the same level of support. The boards are very attractive though. The PQ5 also has 8 phase power and just looked a little better built. I've had ASUS except for an Intel board once going back to the K6.

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What case do you have?

My P5Q is in a reverse ATX (or upside down ATX) Lian Li V1000, so the ATX connector is not a problem. The front audio connector, on the other hand, is at the top right of the case meaning I cannot connect the case's front audio panel to the board


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Maybe I should've clarified the picture, if you're at all noise-aware or you're not a bencher and you don't need cross-fire, there should be no need to go P45 over P43 at all. As long as the P43 board in question has all the features you want/need. :)

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I ended up going for one of each of the following;

The Asus P5Q Pro:
Installed in main gaming rig with a HD 4870 and running Vista 64bit.
Always nice to have that extra PCIe slot in case I get the urge.

The Asus P5K SE:
After realizing that the P5Q series does not support 800 FSB, I installed my e4300 on this mobo. Overclocked to 333 FSB without breaking a sweat.
Plus got a good deal on it.

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 Post subject: Re: P43 vs P45 chipset
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:28 am 
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Hello everyone. Sorry for disturbing you in this old thread which was created and active in the year 2008. The reason why I post in here because I would like to ask whether P45/P43 chipsets are still relevant for medium/light tasks in the year 2018. I have unused following items:
1) Intel Core 2 Duo E8600
2) Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650
3) ATX case
4) ECS NVidia GeForce GTX 570
5) Galax NVidia GeForce GT 1030
6) 405W power supply unit.

Since I have all the unused items listed above, I'm thinking to purchase P45/P43 chipsets based motherboard as an additional desktop(s) for doing medium/light tasks. I only shortlisted the P45/P43 chipsets based motherboard that supports DDR3 up to 16GB (this is the reason why I only consider P45/P43 chipsets).

If you think that P45/P43 chipsets are no longer relevant in the year 2018 and just a waste of money (even though I only need to purchase motherboard and ram to complete a desktop), I will not proceed this intention.

Thank you and have a nice day.


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 Post subject: Re: P43 vs P45 chipset
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:05 am 
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I have an e8400 on a P45 mobo as one of my backup PCs. It's works well for web browsing, email, and MS Office tasks. So, for light duties if you can find a cheap used motherboard and RAM on eBay/etc, it could work out.

For grins, here's a comparison of Passmark scores for your two CPUs and the $60 Kaby Lake Pentium G4560.

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 Post subject: Re: P43 vs P45 chipset
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:23 am 
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It of course depends on actual use. Myself I use a 75 MHz Pentium computer from 1994 every now and again.
(Only one program, controlling home brewn battery test equipment.)


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 Post subject: Re: P43 vs P45 chipset
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:09 am 
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CA_Steve wrote:
I have an e8400 on a P45 mobo as one of my backup PCs. It's works well for web browsing, email, and MS Office tasks. So, for light duties if you can find a cheap used motherboard and RAM on eBay/etc, it could work out.

For grins, here's a comparison of Passmark scores for your two CPUs and the $60 Kaby Lake Pentium G4560.



All right, understood. already bought a used Gigabyte GA-EP43T-S3L motherboard from ebay last week, as shown in the link below:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-EP43T-S3L-rev-14#ov

I decided to go for P43 instead of P45 because the price of the used P45 is around 2 to 3 times the price of the used P43 on ebay. In addition, I have no intention to do crossfire (P45 supports crossfire while P43 doesn't).


Olle P wrote:
It of course depends on actual use. Myself I use a 75 MHz Pentium computer from 1994 every now and again.
(Only one program, controlling home brewn battery test equipment.)


Nice. I wish I still kept all the system that my family used to have (including 486, Pentium, Pentium 4, and Athlon XP) :mrgreen:


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