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 Post subject: Safe Disposal?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:49 am 
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From what I understand, computers are walking (well, OK, sedentary) boxes of hazardous waste. What, if anything, is the best way to dispose of old computer parts? Ebay is probably the best in that others will get more life out of the manufacture, but what about really old stuff (8+ y/o)? It seems impractical to donate these items, and I know from the charity's POV that they are often flooded with garbage computers that are broken or just not usable in today's IT environment.

Also, what's going on with the massive turnover from CRT to LCD nowadays? What's happening to all those CRTs -- is there anything productive that can be done with them?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:18 am 
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do a google search for PC recycling centers near you. when my old 17" CRT died a few years ago, i couldn't bear to chuck it in a dumpster. i ended up finding a place 30 minutes away that recycles anything pc related. i think they charged me $10 and i was glad to pay it. to be honest, i don't know exactly what they do with it, but they looked official enough to not be just charging me and then tossing it in the dump themselves. i think i found a link from my state's recycling page, so that adds legitamacy to it.

anything to keep these leaded beasts out of landfills. note that a lot of newer stuff is RoHS compliant, which roughly means it doesn't contain all the nasty stuff anymore (lead etc.).

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:13 am 
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India, the e-wasteland

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"Computers and electronic equipments which have completed their life cycle and are obsolete in the West have started arriving in India and the entire South Asian market in huge quantities," says Ravi Agarwal director of Toxics Link, a not-for-profit environmental group, adding that after China started clamping down on import of electronic waste by banning it last year, India has emerged as the largest dumping ground of e-waste for the developed world.

According to Toxic Links, "although hard numbers are difficult to come by since most of the imports are illegal," close to 40,000 tons of used electronic equipments are dumped in India every month, much of which, according to Greenpeace International, end up contaminating the country's environment with toxic organic compounds and metals.

Indeed imports of obsolete electronic equipment that have been discarded for recycling in the "developed world" (read: the United States and Europe) have become a lucrative business in developing countries like India. But the problem is that with authorities paying no heed to the influx of tons of toxic e-waste along with lax local laws, India is also turning into a deadly dumping ground that is threatening to be catastrophic over the next few years if left unaddressed.

...The two largest nations shipping their e-wastes out are the United States and Britain. According to a recent British Environmental Protection Agency report, Britain exported 25,000 tons of e-waste to South Asia last year.

The United States bought a staggering $125 billion worth of electronic goods in 2005 and reportedly for every PC the country bought, one was discarded. BK Soni, the founder of Mumbai-based Infotrek Systems, an electronic equipment recycling company, claims that in 2005 the United States recycled just about $2 billion worth of electronic equipment, "but that may be just 20 percent of the e-waste it generated, much of which found its way to India, China and other South East Asian countries, and now, more recently in Africa."

...the biggest reason for dumping is purely economic.

Toxic Links has calculated that it costs about $20 to recycle a PC in the United States, whereas unscrupulous Indian importers pay up to $15 each for buying them out. "That means a net gain of $35 for a U.S. recycler," says Agarwal, "so why should a recycler in the U.S. even take the trouble of recycling PCs there?"


India's poor tackle toxic e-waste


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I'm pretty sure it's some kind of mineral oil.


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 Post subject: PC Recyclers in Brisbane, Australia
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:08 am 
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I just had a PC that died. Rang up the Brisbane City Council about recycling, and they just said "nope, chuck it in the bin".

*sigh*

Anyone know of a list for Australian recyclers?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Recyclers in Brisbane, Australia
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:16 am 
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damien wrote:
I just had a PC that died. Rang up the Brisbane City Council about recycling, and they just said "nope, chuck it in the bin".

*sigh*

Anyone know of a list for Australian recyclers?

There are resources out there, and they only require the smallest amount of work to find. A simple web search on "PC recycling Australia" turned up some interesting articles and resources:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/ ... efault.htm
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/01 ... rica_a.php
http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/41468/ ... ralia.html

Organizations that takes usable PC donations and pass them on to those who can use/need them:
http://www.iss.net.au/pc_rec_sig/
http://vic.computerbank.org.au/

others...
http://www.recycles.org/states/

lots more...

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Here in Portland, OR we have Free Geek. They have a section on how equipment is recycled:

http://freegeek.org/recycle.php

It's not all sell/dump to country with no environmental laws. Responsible recycling like this is a labor intensive and thus money losing adventure though, so Free Geek requests donations when dropping of things to be recycled/disposed.


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 Post subject: Re: PC Recyclers in Brisbane, Australia
PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:17 am 
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damien wrote:
I just had a PC that died. Rang up the Brisbane City Council about recycling, and they just said "nope, chuck it in the bin".

*sigh*

Anyone know of a list for Australian recyclers?


what did you end up doing with your dead PC?


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