Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
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Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
I need a cooler for a 4570. It's a non-K, so no overclocking and mostly for development, so no long CPU-intensive tasks.
My plan is to not use a fan on the cooler, but only use the rear case fan (this is how I run my current E6750).
I have considered the True Spirit 120, but with the new revision price has increased, and I'm not sure about the new fan mounting and vibrations (if I should choose to use a fan later).
So I'm mostly considering the Macho 120 (not HR-02), but should I get the old version with a backplate or the new version without backplate ?
I'm not sure if there has been any other important changes.
Thank you for any input.
My plan is to not use a fan on the cooler, but only use the rear case fan (this is how I run my current E6750).
I have considered the True Spirit 120, but with the new revision price has increased, and I'm not sure about the new fan mounting and vibrations (if I should choose to use a fan later).
So I'm mostly considering the Macho 120 (not HR-02), but should I get the old version with a backplate or the new version without backplate ?
I'm not sure if there has been any other important changes.
Thank you for any input.
Re: Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
I honestly havent seen the two versions you talk about, the Macho 120 is relative a new cooler, much newer than the HR02, the only version i seen is Thermalright Macho 120, and seem to come with the same mounting mechansim as the HR02 macho with the backplate.SilentCold wrote:So I'm mostly considering the Macho 120 (not HR-02), but should I get the old version with a backplate or the new version without backplate ?.
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Re: Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
Abula wrote:I honestly havent seen the two versions you talk about, the Macho 120 is relative a new cooler, much newer than the HR02, the only version i seen is Thermalright Macho 120, and seem to come with the same mounting mechansim as the HR02 macho with the backplate.SilentCold wrote:So I'm mostly considering the Macho 120 (not HR-02), but should I get the old version with a backplate or the new version without backplate ?.
When I read that post, I was in doubt to reply as, according to me, this was the classical question to which you can't give a meaningful answer.
The newer Rev. A of the Macho 120 looks like more a simplification rather than an improvement over the original design: will it work at least equally?
I don't know: currently there isn't any reliable review of the TR Macho 120, and any review at all of the Macho 120 Rev. A
I also doubt there were any people around who have bought both the coolers: so what?
Usually a backplate is a safety measure for the board, usually in order to prevent some severe bending or cracking of the board itself.
Personally I doubt that any version of the Macho 120 will be effective to passively cooling an Ivy Bridge in a proper way, but it mostly depends of personal expectations: if SilentCold feel so, my advice is to buy the cheapest he may find.
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Re: Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
Thanks, I actually thought the question was simple enough:
Would you buy a 650g cooler with or without a backplate ?
but maybe it wasn't clear with the other information I put in. I don't know if it can run 'fanless', but the rear case fan is only 1-2cm away, and the CPU is really not being stressed at all. But that wasn't really the question, if the temperature should get to high, I will just attach the fan to the cooler instead.
Regards.
Would you buy a 650g cooler with or without a backplate ?
but maybe it wasn't clear with the other information I put in. I don't know if it can run 'fanless', but the rear case fan is only 1-2cm away, and the CPU is really not being stressed at all. But that wasn't really the question, if the temperature should get to high, I will just attach the fan to the cooler instead.
Regards.
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Re: Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
SilentCold wrote:Would you buy a 650g cooler with or without a backplate ?
I mean your question is simplified now, but it's not that simple at the same time.
The backplate surely stiffen the "keep out zone" on the motherboard: does this measure prove to be really effective, with reference to board reliability (set aside the cooler effectiveness)?
I can't help: I was used to think that a backplate is better (=safer) than no backplate, but without any evidence of it (in the 478' and 775' days there were several heavy coolers relying solely on their push-pins).
So personally I would rather that a 650g weight (usually with a strong cantilever effect) do come with a backplate, but again to be fair this mine is not such an educated guess.
Re: Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
I have never installed an aftermarket heatsink in my life. Planning soon.
As completely new to this world, I would take the back plate.
Especially here we are talking about the same cooler, with or without.
It would certainly be different if the old one was discontinued, and if I would need to choose between new-without-backplate and other model, less good, with back plate.
There is an additional question that I would ask, in this comparison "with or without": do I get the same performance with the new model, with possibly less pressure to the CPU?
As completely new to this world, I would take the back plate.
Especially here we are talking about the same cooler, with or without.
It would certainly be different if the old one was discontinued, and if I would need to choose between new-without-backplate and other model, less good, with back plate.
There is an additional question that I would ask, in this comparison "with or without": do I get the same performance with the new model, with possibly less pressure to the CPU?
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Re: Thermalright Macho 120 - new or old version ?
thierry. wrote:There is an additional question that I would ask, in this comparison "with or without": do I get the same performance with the new model, with possibly less pressure to the CPU?
IMO/IME no one can answer such a question.
At any rate, with that specific cooler the applied pressure should be, more or less, about the same.