Scythe Kaze Jyu 100x25mm 1000rpm availability in UK/EU ?

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Scythe Kaze Jyu 100x25mm 1000rpm availability in UK/EU ?

Post by maf718 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:52 pm

I just realised that the lower 92mm intake bay in a Solo case will accept a 100mm fan with 92mm holes without impacting the second 92mm bay. In other words I can have 1x100mm and 1x92mm at the front without modding the case. (I'm thinking of changing to positive pressure)

Great, I thought, until I visited Scythe EU website and discovered the 100x25 line of fans was discontinued :( . There seems to still be some scant availability for the 2000rpm version in the UK but nothing for the 1000rpm. The "Slim" line of 100mm fans are available but I don't want one of those because a 92x25 would perform better.

Some googling and searching on ebay later it seems that my only option is to import the fan from the US at a cost of about $18.39, nearly 60% of which is shipping. At the current exchange rate that's nearly twelve quid in real money!

Does anyone know where I can obtain the 100x25 Kaze Jyu 1000rpm in the UK or even in the EU? Alternatively, (and I'm not very hopeful on this one), can anyone recommend another quiet 100mm fan with 92mm holes?

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Post by jhhoffma » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:13 am

I must say I'm disappointed to find that these fans are no longer being made. They were a great fit for me and I have 3 of them (two 1000 and one 1500). The 1000rpm versions were amazing as there aren't many quiet 92mm fans out there. I'm using two 1000rpm versions in my WHS right now (one in the Enermax PSU, and one trimmed down to fit inside the Zalman 7000B on the CPU).

I see that Newegg still has some stock but they will not do international. If you really want one or more of these, I'd suggest searching on ebay. There seems to be some left in the US, and the seller will ship to the UK, but it won't be cheap.

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Post by Ch0z3n » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:58 am

Maybe you should get a friend in the US to buy them and once they get them to mail them to you? I guess that means it would be hard to make sure they were in good condition when they get to you and will probably be a bit more than you are willing to pay, but it is an idea.

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Post by maf718 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:25 am

Thanks guys, the best option at the moment is still looking like the ebay ones from California for $7.75 plus $10.64 shipping. Better than the $55 shipping at one place on ebay! I don't mind spending that much on a fan but it seems a waste when most of it is being spent on aircraft fuel, not exactly the green way of buying fans.

The nearest one to the UK so far is in Rome (950 miles) but it's more expensive.

@jhhoffma - Maybe these fans are only being discontinued in Europe, Scythe does seem to carry a slightly different product range in the US vs EU? In fact the US website has two different versions - green packaging and labels with open corners and purple packaging and labels with tube corners.

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Post by jhhoffma » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:23 am

@jhhoffma - Maybe these fans are only being discontinued in Europe, Scythe does seem to carry a slightly different product range in the US vs EU? In fact the US website has two different versions - green packaging and labels with open corners and purple packaging and labels with tube corners.[/quote]

Not likely, I don't see many shops here with them in stock. Besides, they would all be made at the same factory anyway and shipped to different packaging/distributing locations. If they are discontinued on the UK website, I'm sure the stock will eventually run out and the US website will follow suit.

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Post by maf718 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:41 pm

Hmmm.....I guess I better not dilly-dally then. I'll give it a couple of days and if nothing better turns up I'll order from the US.

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Post by FartingBob » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:11 pm

You should ask yourself if 8mm extra is really worth paying double compared to the already good 92mm scythe fans. Personally i dont think it is.

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Post by maf718 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:36 am

Bob, please tell me where you buy your fans from?

I have severe difficulties finding decent 92mm fans here in the UK, that's one of the reasons I was looking at 100mm models. If I could get a good 92mm for £6 I'd take it rather than pay £12 to import the 100mm.

I already have the 92mm Kama pwm and I like it slowed down to 1000rpm or less, but can't get another as I have no more pwm headers free. The Scythe Kama-Flex 92mm would be an alternative (if it undervolts well), but that seems nearly as hard to get hold of as the 100mm. None of the five etailers I use stock it, and a search of ebay and Amazon marketplace reveals the cheapest one including postage is just over a pound less than importing the Kaze-Jyu. I can't win either way.

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Post by Ch0z3n » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:13 am

I have a 92mm Kama-Flex 1600rpm, at 5v it is about 650rpm IIRC.

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Post by cpemma » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:55 pm

maf718 wrote:If I could get a good 92mm for £6 I'd take it rather than pay £12 to import the 100mm.
You're maybe being a bit optimistic on pricing. A Nexus Real Silent 92mm will cost you £14 delivered.

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Post by maf718 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:48 pm

Yeah, that's the problem, going by the site you linked to:
- Nexus 120mm - £4.46
- Nexus 80mm - £3.48
- Nexus 92mm - £11.69 (plus delivery in all cases)

That is an extreme example but its an indication of how good 92mm fans are expensive and hard to get hold of here. No wonder 100mm are like rocking horse shit.

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Post by jaganath » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:52 am

you've probably thought of this already, but why not get the 2000rpm version and slow it to 1000rpm (5V)?

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Post by maf718 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:56 am

Thanks jaganath, but I read somewhere (this forum I guess) that the 2000rpm Kaze-jyu sounds a bit rough when slowed down, and as its not cheap I didn't want to take the chance. I already have a large box of "spare" fans, and don't want to add to it.

I've also given up on importing the 100mm from the US, its too much hassle - delivery will take a long time, there's more chance of it getting damaged en route and I may as well forget about a warranty as it wouldn't be economic to return a defective fan across the Atlantic.

The good news is that while looking for Nexus 92mm for less than £11, I stumbled across a site that has them for £3.79 plus delivery :D and also the Kama-flex 1600rpm 92mm for £7.29. (Specialtech.co.uk). I was so surprised I nearly bought both, but settled for the Scythe, the extra build quality ought to be worth the extra price. As I also needed £80 worth of other items I decided to combine them into the same order so that's good news for the shop as well as myself.

Thanks again to all who made suggestions and comments in this thread, it's all been helpful.

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Post by Ch0z3n » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:46 am

Are you gonna 5v or 7v that? 1600rpm is pretty loud at 12v.

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Post by jhhoffma » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:24 am

maf718 wrote:Thanks jaganath, but I read somewhere (this forum I guess) that the 2000rpm Kaze-jyu sounds a bit rough when slowed down, and as its not cheap I didn't want to take the chance. I already have a large box of "spare" fans, and don't want to add to it.
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I've observed it first hand, but it was only a sample variance of 1, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Post by maf718 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:19 am

Ch0z3n wrote:Are you gonna 5v or 7v that? 1600rpm is pretty loud at 12v.
Yeah, I forgot to say I have a Zalman resistor (Pity about the fan it came with) that I'm gonna use, should put it somewhere around 7v and I'm hoping for around 900 or 1000 rpm, going by what you said earlier about 5v. Should be pretty quiet.

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Post by maf718 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:28 am

jhhoffma wrote:
maf718 wrote:Thanks jaganath, but I read somewhere (this forum I guess) that the 2000rpm Kaze-jyu sounds a bit rough when slowed down, and as its not cheap I didn't want to take the chance. I already have a large box of "spare" fans, and don't want to add to it.
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I've observed it first hand, but it was only a sample variance of 1, so take it with a grain of salt.
At UK prices it wasn't worth the risk. One thing this episode has opened my eyes to is that North Americans are spoiled for choice when it comes to good quality, reasonably priced fans.

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Post by Ch0z3n » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:34 am

That's because they are all made in Taiwan/China and they love us long time. :lol:

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