EKL Papst 120x120x25 fan? ie 4412FGL (in UK)

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hitman47
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EKL Papst 120x120x25 fan? ie 4412FGL (in UK)

Post by hitman47 » Sat Jun 14, 2003 4:48 pm

Hi all :)

As some know my planned system with 120mm fans is going ahead nicely, got my SLK3700 and cut out stamped fan grills; must say the case is a mile ahead of my Globalwin802 :shock:

Onto the fans, I was going to get Papst 120mm 4pin 25mm "4412 FGL" at:
http://www.koolnquiet.co.uk/index.php?m ... alog&id=25 for £20 each :shock:

But i found over at komplett.co.uk, this fan:
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?acti ... w=detailed

I believe it is the very same thing, which is great as its £5 cheaper :P Thing is, what does the EKL bit mean? Is it a reseller of the same Papst fan? Hopefully its the same fan... :?:

Kind regards
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Post by hitman47 » Sat Jun 14, 2003 4:54 pm

here is the EKL page for said fan:
http://www.ekl-gmbh.de/frontend/produkt ... ng=0000002

Note the fan connector:
"y-Double Connector"
What's that!? :?:

thanks again
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Post by dukla2000 » Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:02 am

Yeah, it is the same fan. And as you guess, EKL is some kind of distributor for Papst. And even more coincidental/small world, the Kool n Quiet Papst come in a box with EKL marks :D

And yeah, as per above I got mine from KnQ for £20 knowing it was cheaper at Komplett: except KnQ were at my computer fair (Bracknell) so postage was 0 and delivery instant :D . As per other posts elsewhere I am really happy with this fan.
y-Double Connector
means it is wired to hdd molex - a male/female pair with 10cm of connecting wires, so you can insert it between (say) the existing molex and your hdd.

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Post by hitman47 » Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:08 am

excellent thanks very much dukla2000; im glad its the same fan, thing is, i still dont understand the y-double connector :roll: :oops:

erm here is the image of it if anyone could use that to explain it to me? I understand it is not a normal 4 pin molex connecter then?

Image

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Post by hitman47 » Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:15 am

lol also, am i still able to perform the 5V/7V mod?

:)

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Post by Duncan » Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:26 am

It's probably just a pass through, so basically you end up not losing a molex connector by adding the fan. 5v/7v should still be possible.. but the pass on will be 5/7v also :)

I'm pretty new to this so don't take my word for it :)

I understand the 4412 is a clicky papst? I think Dorothy said the 4312 is the one to go for :)

Duncan

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Post by hitman47 » Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:28 pm

cheers again Duncan

erm it seems mixed opinions on the clickiness, but hopefully ill get non-clicky 4412s, cos apart from that they seem ideal for my case

(just ask Katana man he raves about the papst 4412 fgl's :D )

thanks again duncan
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Post by Duncan » Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:44 pm

Are you the same person who used to email me? I got flooded and couldn't be bothered to sort through 3000 emails so I just deleted the lot and lost your address in the process :( I was Duncan from the ocuk forums :)

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Post by hitman47 » Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:25 pm

yes, duncan from ntl!? :o

tis me, hitman47, same as OCUK :D

how did your project go mate, with your slk3700?
mines underway as we speak, case is top class, just need these papst fans;
what do you think of the combination of slk3700 + papst 4412fg?
personally i cant wait for them to arrive

:)

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Post by Jan Kivar » Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:11 pm

Duncan wrote:It's probably just a pass through, so basically you end up not losing a molex connector by adding the fan. 5v/7v should still be possible.. but the pass on will be 5/7v also :)
Not necessarily. You can simply take the 12V and 5V pins out of the molex connector (by pushing the lock fins in from the pins with a needle or small pliers), cut the fan wire out from the 12V pin, and strip about 4 mm of the jacket/cover from the fan wire.

Then open the other pin's (5V in this case) wire holder a bit (the little metal clips at the end of the pin that keeps the wire attached to the pin) and put the fan wire to next to the other wire (so that the bare leads start at the same point). There is no need to open the lead holder (clips that hold the lead in the pin). Tighten with pliers, and twist a tiny bit of tape to wrap the bare fan lead tightly in to the connector to prevent any shorts (basically You will tape the lead on the top of the lead holder). Make sure that it makes a proper contact.

Then put the pins back to the molex, and You have a fully functional passthrough, with 5V fan connector. (If You want, You can also solder the wires, but they aren't soldered originally so why bother)

DISCLAIMER: I'm not responsible if You happen to fry out anything! Don't do this mod if You aren't sure what You are doing and how!

Cheers,

Jan

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