Seriously, yeah I really think so. Either this or T64 but I think we could call it the same thing when it comes to cooling, although T64 will undervolt better in general since it's cherry picked.
Speaking of cherry picked, which CPU's needs to be cherry picked? And even though AMD uses different codenames for Turion and Athlon, aren't they still the same? Two cores instead of four:
1 MB cache: FX, 4200+, 4000+, ML, MT (exept the 512 kB ones)
512 kB cache: 3000+, 3200+, 3500+, 3800+, and those 1.6 and 1.8 GHz MT
If you're into the 1 MB group you either got money or are prepared to buy anoter CPU/mobo because the Turion didn't work with x = got money.
But if you're into the 512 kB group there's nothing to cherry pick. To do it for the 3800+? No, 2.4 GHz is not hard to reach with todays 90 nm, but most certainly it was when they showed up. The same story goes for the mobile ones, they couldn't have done that with Oakville back then, so they gave it 1.35 V. Todays D stepping is capable of lower Vcore.
And if there are four different cores the better! Just desktop 1.8-2.4 GHz, no speed binning.
So what does this mean? Probably that it will continue to be easy finding a good CPU... unless:
They will disable half of the cache, which I doubt, this is something they come up with afterwards, not with a new core. The 3000+-3500+ line is so popular that they would probably lose money in selling those big sized dies for that low price.
They have come up with a way to control wafer quality (this sounds like pure evil
), tested heavily under December with week 48 as good and week 51 as bad. I doubt this would happen, but the overclockers will be our best friends as usual in this issue and tell what's good and what's bad.
For a while I was into PM just because of AMD's horrible Opteron E TDP's. But now I've realized that the newer A64 ones are probably
a bit more cooler than the older ones, and PM is a bit outdated (It's not just the chipset). It doesn't have 64 bits extensions, hyperthreading or integrated memorycontroller. Now I just don't care about 64 bit, but I would very much like to have either of the other two in my next CPU (having both is to much to ask for...