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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:31 am 
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So I was thinking of replacing my cpu heatsink with a thermaltake big typhoon (reviews say it cools a lot better than the 7700CU).

I read a lotta reviews and everyone seems very pleased with this heatsink :D

So now im looking for reactions of people who actually bought it, the fan should be very quiet according to thermaltake and reviews...Any experiences?

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Ive got nothing but good things to say about my Tt Big Typhoon. easy to install (though required a little modding on the H-bracket to fit my MB)
It's damn quiet, and cools the cpu and components really well. Needs a big case to fit in though, and forget about moving the case after it's installed - its huge and will likely snap the MB with too much jarring.
Highly recommended.

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Got two running in my household.

Mine. In an experimental passive system cooling a pally 2100 (75w). Still playing with it.

I can run passive by underclocking, my plan is to run passive with speedfan turning it on when more power is required if I can only get 8rdavcore to work. Its pretty easy to fit. Warning though, I use a abit NF7. The processor is too close to the edge of the board. I had to modify the case to move the power supply about 2cm away from the board for clearance. So either make sure the mobo you use has the processor away more than 2cm from the edge (Asus boards seem fine) or ensure that your PSU has 2-3cm clearance from the mobo in your case.

It works quite a bit better blowing onto the board than sucking.

My brother is using the same cooler in a nexus breeze case, with Asus board. This is fine for clearance. He runs his at full speed and its damn quiet still

Pro

Excellent performance even on very hot processors. At 800rpm will cool just about anything and is practially inaudable
Easy to fit, easier than clip on types. You do have to remove the board to fit it.
Mounting system spreads the weight well on the mobo.(dont listen to people who fret about the weight of the thing)
Very quiet fan (yate loon) which works well at 750rpm or higher.
Fan blows down onto the NB.
Good clearance of mobo components
Price (in the UK £23) inc fan
Multi socket support.

Cons

Fan doesnt register rpm on speedfan below 800rpm
Fan has ltd control on mobo PWM
Some Mobo's clearance to PSU an issue. Its height may be an issue for slim cases
Finish. Not the prettiest if you have a case window.
only mobo header supplied for supplying power (not an issue for me)

Thats it.

If its a shelf cooler you are looking for, cant recomend it enough. The XP120 costs more and you still have to buy a fan. The XP120 does seem to look prettier if your running fanless.

Totally happy with this product. Thermaltake should make more stuff this good.

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I'm running it and it's cooling my opteron really well. I liked that it was available locally so if I had problems I could return it. I can't hear it at 7v fan speed....but my other components are quiet not silent. It doesn't seem to have any annoying ticking or anything if that helps.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:53 am 
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vine-au wrote:
Ive got nothing but good things to say about my Tt Big Typhoon. easy to install (though required a little modding on the H-bracket to fit my MB)
It's damn quiet, and cools the cpu and components really well. Needs a big case to fit in though, and forget about moving the case after it's installed - its huge and will likely snap the MB with too much jarring.
Highly recommended.


That's good to hear :D

It should fit fine on my mobo, haven't heared anyone talk about incompatibility problems with the a8n sli deluxe and htis Hs.. :D

Yes I understand , I'll transport is horizontally :) Thanks for the tip :wink:

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Got two running in my household.

Mine. In an experimental passive system cooling a pally 2100 (75w). Still playing with it.

I can run passive by underclocking, my plan is to run passive with speedfan turning it on when more power is required if I can only get 8rdavcore to work. Its pretty easy to fit. Warning though, I use a abit NF7. The processor is too close to the edge of the board. I had to modify the case to move the power supply about 2cm away from the board for clearance. So either make sure the mobo you use has the processor away more than 2cm from the edge (Asus boards seem fine) or ensure that your PSU has 2-3cm clearance from the mobo in your case.

It works quite a bit better blowing onto the board than sucking.

My brother is using the same cooler in a nexus breeze case, with Asus board. This is fine for clearance. He runs his at full speed and its damn quiet still

Pro

Excellent performance even on very hot processors. At 800rpm will cool just about anything and is practially inaudable
Easy to fit, easier than clip on types. You do have to remove the board to fit it.
Mounting system spreads the weight well on the mobo.(dont listen to people who fret about the weight of the thing)
Very quiet fan (yate loon) which works well at 750rpm or higher.
Fan blows down onto the NB.
Good clearance of mobo components
Price (in the UK £23) inc fan
Multi socket support.

Cons

Fan doesnt register rpm on speedfan below 800rpm
Fan has ltd control on mobo PWM
Some Mobo's clearance to PSU an issue. Its height may be an issue for slim cases
Finish. Not the prettiest if you have a case window.
only mobo header supplied for supplying power (not an issue for me)

Thats it.

If its a shelf cooler you are looking for, cant recomend it enough. The XP120 costs more and you still have to buy a fan. The XP120 does seem to look prettier if your running fanless.

Totally happy with this product. Thermaltake should make more stuff this good.

Wow that's a beautiful idea *tear*

Think I might try that myself :D

I think it should work fine, Im using a 7700CU atm it's not a lot smaller (Widht and length) Should be fine :)

Thanks a lot for the review very helpfull :D

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I'm running it and it's cooling my opteron really well. I liked that it was available locally so if I had problems I could return it. I can't hear it at 7v fan speed....but my other components are quiet not silent. It doesn't seem to have any annoying ticking or anything if that helps.


That's comforting, thanks :D It should be a lot quieter than this 7700CU POS :x The bastard even buzzes at 5Volt :(



Can anyone post temps?


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As I am still trying to come up with an optimum configuration for the typhoon, my temps will probably not be that usefull to you.

Once I get my case completed to my satifaction, I will post my results. Dont think this is much use to you, as I guess I will be a month or two away from completion.

I will ask my brother to post his if he has time. Shruiy is his handle.

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Ok no problem mate :)

I'm absolutly sure I'm getting it :D

Just hope I can mount it immediatly on my mobo and that i wont have too get replacement screws, i read that a lot of people have problems with the mounting systems, e.g. the crews being too short

Thanks for all the help guys :)


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Again, I had asked this before but for silent cooling is the typhoon better or the scythe ninja with the nexus 120 fan?


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Ninja vs Typhoon.

Is a difficult one to call. The designs of each are quite different so its a bit difficult to compare.

Differences

Type. One is shelf, one is stack. They flow air in different ways. The Ninja gives you options like ducting through the PSU and using its fan to cool both. The typhoon has the added benefit of cooling the Mosfet and the mobo's power regulation mosfets.

Price. In the UK the Typhoon comes as a complete assembly with a damn good fan. I got mine for £23. A loon fan costs £10-15 itself. A ninja is about £25 and you still need the Fan.

They are both excellent performers for the configeration they are. Not got a review of both together though one probably exists.

If you are looking for a shelf, then yeah the typhoon is a brilliant buy, I am delighted with mine. I have read here that the Ninja owners say the same about it. First things first you have to decide on your overall design of airflow in your system.

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Hey blair, please tell me I can use the standard backplate that comes with the a8n sli deluxe in stead of that crappy peace of foam?

If I wanna replace it in time (not gonna happen in a long time ) It better be removable easy..Some reviews say that it's possible..

Any ideas?


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Btw just checked, how the hell is the standard backplate connected to the motherboard without shorting out everything :?

The thing is made of metal and it sits directly against the pcb?

Someone please explain i feel st00pid now :oops:


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You use the metal backplate, with the foam sandwiched between it and the motherboard. The foam is sticky backed, but I did not remove the paper in case I want to use the sink on another board in the future. Didn't cause me an issue.

You need to use both, the foam both insulates the metal plate to prevent shorting out and protects the board from being scratched.

Guess you didn't get the instructions supplied? Shoddy on thermaltakes behalf. tsk

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Im getting it in 10 days, just making sure before I get it :wink:

Um Ok so you can easily use another hsf then if you want to , that's good :D

Now I really want it :D

Can't wait :D


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I dont think you will be disapointed.

And erm sorry to thermaltake... You guys get enough bad press round here!!!

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Aargh 10 more days damnit :lol:

I want it...now!!!!

You convinced me, thanks for your time :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:38 pm 
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Review of the Scythe Ninja against Thermaltake Big Typhoon

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cooler ... -cool.html

The Ninja comes out on top but they use a 1600 rpm fan on the Ninja against a 1300 rpm on the Typhoon. So Typhoon is quieter they claim, which of course depends on the fan used.

Passive the Ninja wins.

Quote from the conclusion:
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Speaking at large, the Scythe Ninja, Zalman CNPS9500 LED and Thermaltake Big Typhoon are about on the same level of efficiency, so your choice of the cooler should depend on other factors like price, availability, ease of installation and fastening on a particular CPU socket. Some users may also be guided by their personal sympathy or dislike to a particular brand, for example. But whatever cooler of these three you may choose, you won’t be disappointed.


I'm still undecided between the 2, but I am leaning towards the Ninja for the added benefit off running without a fan on it.


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Thanks for the review. One inconsistancy in it that I spotted.

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Well, the Big Typhoon is not a good example; its fan is positioned too high above the mainboard’s PCB and rotates too slowly to cool the mainboard normally


From my experiance so far I would say that this is conjecture on the part of the reviewer. I definately see some differences in NB temps in speedfan when the fan is off or on. Admittedly I have replaced its cooler with a big passive heatsink. Putting my fingers under it though I can feel that air is reaching the mosfets etc.

Not sure what they mean by normally though. In traditional lump of metal with fan on top coolers I dont have experiance of them cooling the mosfets either.

The conclusions are more than likely sound though. There is not really much science involved in working out huge surface area=huge cooling.

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Do you think I could mount the big typhoon on the 7700CU backplate?

It should work I think but I need assurance..


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I dont know why you would need to. The plate that comes with it does the job just fine.

Not sure how the plate you refer to looks, but I suppose the hole spacings will be standard so probably

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Im just too lazy to remove the motherboard :lol:

Image

The plastic thing on the bottom right..


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Oh no wait a sec, Im still gonna have to remove the mobo then too :?

Maybe I should just use the Bt backplate :lol:


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Ye I would use the typhoon one. It secures with 4 screws that one looks like it does with 2

You really are excited about this sink man. Time to take a good hard look at your life dude!!! :lol:

Oh hang on... That applies to me as well!!!

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Lmfao :lol:

I love my hardware :lol:

Thanks for the tips im done....For now :lol:


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I got it now :D

It came in the mail like 3 days ago :D

I love this thing, passively cooling a 3500+ @ 2700Mhz 1.51 vcore, idle or 20% load it's like 40 degrees w00t :D

I love this cooler 8)


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Glad you do, Its a good bit of kit. I'm happy with mine big style.

Blair

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I just don't understand why I haven't read more about this one here at SPCR. Yeeah, it's Thermaltake and I hate them of course :twisted: , but this one must be good! And, you get one of the best fans in the market with it, although I'd prefer a "M" fan.
Don't forget the price, only 350 SEK here in Sweden compared to 475 SEK for a SI-120 (that's without a fan). You pay almost twice the price to get the real thing, which includes one heatpipe less, no better mounting (for K8 at least), and worse performance. Thermalright does have a better finish on the base though.
Is it true, Thermaltake sells a HS that you actually want to use the incuded fan with?


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Is it true, Thermaltake sells a HS that you actually want to use the incuded fan with?


The fan that comes with it is a loon I believe. It runs about 1300rpm at standard 12v. I compared it to my brothers machine is a nexus breeze with a couple of the orange nexus fans. He also has a typhoon. The noise levels are comparable.

Using speedfan I can drop the rpm to about 800rpm (well slightly lower but the speed doesn't register below 770rpm) and it will cool a 75watt 2100xp palamino (to 40c I recall on a 100% load).

Using 8rdavcore i can get the fan to start around 700rpm.

The product when you consider that it comes with a very good fan included is got to be the cheapest of the big coolers, Its cooling performance is up there in the charts. I am happy with my purchase with this one, left me a bit more money in my budget that allowed me to get a good quality pasive PSU. :)

Quite happy to recommend this one. There are a lot of TT bashers out there, but this is a company that comes up with a few good products. Not everything that they offer is right for the users of this forum, a lot of their products target the "fashion" end of the pc market. Their marketing claims do favour an "optimistic" approach to specifications more than often.

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Just to add:

My Typhoon cools 10C better than the Zalman 7700 it replaced. With airflow mods, that is closer to 20C better. Yup, 56C down to 36-37C.

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29414

I installed it by just screwing in to the 7700 bracket - didnt even have to take the mb out of my case.

Screws needed spacers to shorten, but apart from that, it is awesome - esp with a side fresh air duct.


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Thanks Dave! That's what I wanted to hear! You could guess what kind of difference I'd get since I'm running a Zalman 7000 AlCu.


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It is nice when people have the same specs. :)

Now if there is one thing I have learnt it is that airflow is quirky, and reviews mean nothing until it is in YOUR case! But assuming you have good airllow - esp from the side, you should be looking at a big drop.

I wish there was something easy left that I could do to gain 10C! :cry:

And be sure to plug the gaps when you install:

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=27467


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