It is currently Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:24 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Bill's Recycled, Fanless, Silent Woodbox P3
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:16 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:26 pm
Posts: 11963
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Bill's Recycled, Fanless, Silent Woodbox P3

_________________
Mike Chin, SPCR Editor/Publisher
Support SPCR by buying your gear through these links: NCIX, Amazon and Newegg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:56 pm
Posts: 154
Nice thing it is. I like the absurd heatsink! :lol:

I don't like the looks though. I'm not a fan of perforated metal. Although it's by far the best looking wooden case I've seen, it quite doesn't match the closed (read: dustfree) look of the P180.

Still good engineering here, congratulations!!

(I'm an engineer myself) 8)

Greets, Sander


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:19 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:26 pm
Posts: 11963
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
s_xero wrote:
Nice thing it is. I like the absurd heatsink! :lol:

I don't like the looks though. I'm not a fan of perforated metal. Although it's by far the best looking wooden case I've seen, it quite doesn't match the closed (read: dustfree) look of the P180.

Still good engineering here, congratulations!!

(I'm an engineer myself) 8)

No forced airflow (no fans) -- therefore, minimal dust buildup even with all the openings.

_________________
Mike Chin, SPCR Editor/Publisher
Support SPCR by buying your gear through these links: NCIX, Amazon and Newegg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:45 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:00 am
Posts: 473
Location: Puget Sound, WA
s_xero wrote:
Nice thing it is. I like the absurd heatsink! :lol:

I don't like the looks though. I'm not a fan of perforated metal. Although it's by far the best looking wooden case I've seen, it quite doesn't match the closed (read: dustfree) look of the P180.

Still good engineering here, congratulations!!

(I'm an engineer myself) 8)

Greets, Sander


I'll dissent. I think it looks great. I'm a fan of the 'Euro Retro Modern' look that this is inspired by, so that's probably why this case appeals to me.

_________________
Desktop: Antec P150|Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R|Intel Xeon E3110|2x2048MB PC8500|HR-01|eVGA 8800GT SC|HR-03 GT|Scythe PWM 120mm|Scythe PWM 92mm|WD5000AAKS|Seasonic SS400-HT
HTPC: OrigenAE X11|Intel DG45ID|Intel E8400|2x2048MB PC6400|Scythe Big Shuriken|ATI HD4550|2xATI DCT|80mm Nexus|2TB WD 3.5" SATA + 100GB Seagate 2.5" SATA|NeoHE 430


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:10 pm
Posts: 1008
Location: San Jose, California
I like it too. Nice work. The gel packs are a great idea.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:32 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:55 am
Posts: 5085
Location: UK
I really like the copper spacer on the CPU, it's like an IHS on steroids! :lol: Also amazing 10C drop with the gel packs; maybe to give the case that "finished" look, a coat of light varnish or woodstain?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 8:44 am
Posts: 57
Location: Maumee valley (Ohio)
Is that a Coppermine or Tualatin PIII? I would so crush the processor die on a Coppermine if I tried to set up a heatsink like that :shock:

_________________
Image
Antec P180B | ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus | Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.4 | G.Skill F2-6400 DDR2 800 2*1GB | WD Caviar SE16 250GB
Antec P180B


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:27 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:02 pm
Posts: 1608
Location: United States
Neat stuff. Never been a big fan of wooden cases, but that's not to say your doesn't look well-done, it's just not my bag. Amazing how much the metal box cut down on noise, I had an old slot 1 P2-350 that would've been perfect for basic tasks (internet/word), CPU was passive and the two 80mm fans were near silent, but the darn 6GB HDD was whiny as heck. Wish I would've though to try a die cast box before I got rid of it.

Had heard of people using gel packs in HDD enclosures, but I think you may be the first to make home-made gel packs. Unfortunate about the leak, but it sounds like double-bagging it should prevent this? And silica gel just to be safe?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:15 pm
Posts: 14
Location: Melbourne, Australia
I like the idea of the outside box while keeping the basic structure of the old metal case. The raw wood and metal look on this is sweet, very slick, I like!

_________________
Sonata Case, AMD 3500+ Watercooled with Zalman Resorator1 Plus. Watercooled northbridge & GPU. 2 slow 120mm case fans. and all of this is spoiled by a noisy WD Raptor, silly me. Complete with Ghetto Fan mod on radiator


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
Thanks very much, for all the kind things you've said about my project :)

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
MikeC wrote:
s_xero wrote:
Nice thing it is. I like the absurd heatsink! :lol:

I don't like the looks though. I'm not a fan of perforated metal. Although it's by far the best looking wooden case I've seen, it quite doesn't match the closed (read: dustfree) look of the P180.

Still good engineering here, congratulations!!

(I'm an engineer myself) 8)

No forced airflow (no fans) -- therefore, minimal dust buildup even with all the openings.


You're quite right Mike.

Despite the fact that it spends its life in a dusty bedroom, I was surprised how little dust had accumulated in the 19 months since it was last taken apart (I opened it up to take some more pictures). Unlike my desktop machine, it doesn't sit there 'hoovering' the carpet.

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
jaganath wrote:
I really like the copper spacer on the CPU, it's like an IHS on steroids! :lol: Also amazing 10C drop with the gel packs; maybe to give the case that "finished" look, a coat of light varnish or woodstain?


The wood has a wax finish (a sort of furniture polish) which gives it a smooth soft feel - It doesn't really show on the photos.

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
Cerberus wrote:
Is that a Coppermine or Tualatin PIII? I would so crush the processor die on a Coppermine if I tried to set up a heatsink like that :shock:


Coppermine/Tualatin - I don't honestly know, it does (if I recall correctly) have an unprotected die - no heat spreader.

The copper block is clipped to the processor by light springs (less pressure than a typical P4/athlon clip)

What may not be clear, is that the heat sink is supported at the top by two screws that are adjusted so that the heat-sink just sits on the copper block, there is very little extra pressure on the CPU.

At the chassis end of the screws there are a couple of springs and nuts (you can just see the nuts in the photo) that push the heat-sink away from the CPU, to help prevent the mass of the heat-sink damaging the CPU (at least that's the theory :))

There is a little bracket on the bottom of the heat sink to stop it lifting off the block when the PC is moved

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:22 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
frostedflakes wrote:
Neat stuff. Never been a big fan of wooden cases, but that's not to say your doesn't look well-done, it's just not my bag. Amazing how much the metal box cut down on noise, I had an old slot 1 P2-350 that would've been perfect for basic tasks (internet/word), CPU was passive and the two 80mm fans were near silent, but the darn 6GB HDD was whiny as heck. Wish I would've though to try a die cast box before I got rid of it.

Had heard of people using gel packs in HDD enclosures, but I think you may be the first to make home-made gel packs. Unfortunate about the leak, but it sounds like double-bagging it should prevent this? And silica gel just to be safe?


Putting the whining old IBM HDD in a box made the thing so much quieter, that I just had to solve the heat problem.

I've put the machine back together now, I double bagged the small gel pack, but have yet to get some silica gel :oops:

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:30 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:26 pm
Posts: 1421
Location: Finland
Love it.

I wonder how many users of gel pack homebrew enclosures will find some corrosion in the long run...

_________________
Antec Solo case /w Seasonic S-12 430W, Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-SH2, X2 4850e /w Scythe Ninja, 2x2Gb DDR2800, WD Raptor 150GB, 500GB WD GP in Antec MX-1, BenQ G2400W, Logitech diNovo Laser, Logitech z-680


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:54 pm
Posts: 333
Location: USA
Cool, man, especially the part about drive silencing with homemade :shock: gel-packs. While it is unfortunate that there was some corrosion, at least it appears that the hard-drive wasn't damaged. Not sure what the best remedy is, wouldn't double bagging hurt heat conduction by introducing an air space between the drive and the gel-pack?

_________________
Athlon64 3000+ @ 2.6 GHz, Radeon 9550, Seasonic S12-380, Zalman CNPS7000-Cu, Yate Loon 120mm, Centurion 5 case
Core2Duo E6320 @ 2.4GHz, Seasonic S12-330, Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu, Yate Loon 120mm, Ultra MicroFly


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:08 am
Posts: 27
pretty cool I guess but kinda lame that the optical drive is white kinda sticks he should make a wood bezel.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:44 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:50 am
Posts: 308
Location: Moscow, Russia
BillTodd
A rare case when a PC looks great, cools great and sounds great at the same time. Thumbs up!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
Endosteel wrote:
A rare case when a PC looks great, cools great and sounds great at the same time. Thumbs up!

Thanks
:D

RasmusseN wrote:
pretty cool I guess but kinda lame that the optical drive is white kinda sticks he should make a wood bezel.


If only my woodworking skills were up to it :)

(fortunately the pictures don't show how badly the CDROM fits its orifice :lol: )

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: A quick update.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
A quick update:
I opened the HDD enclosure to replace the Seagate drive with a 120GB Western Digital drive. Although there were no leaks this time, the small home-made gel-pack had evolved a new life form (non intelligent - kept calling me ‘The creator’), so I decided to abandon the home-brew packs and use a small medical gel-pack I’d bought a while ago. (see http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35770&highlight=)

I had to puncture the pack and drain about half of the contents to make the pack fit with the new HDD. I sealed the hole with some aluminium duct sealing tape. It seems pretty secure, I’ve added a couple of silica gel moisture absorbing packs to ensure things stay dry this time.

_________________
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: P3 becomes a P4
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am
Posts: 132
Location: Colchester (nuked in 1984)
Hi All,

Just thought you like to know I've just about completed an update to the Old SilentPC. I've changed the motherboard, CPU and power supply, HDD and heat-sinks

The machine is now a 2.53GHz Pentium4 (SL682) running in a Gigabyte GA8-SIML motherboard with 512MB ram and a 80GB Segate drive.

The higher powered CPU required a new PSU and an almost ridiculously large heat-sink to cool the 60 watt CPU.

It works, it's very quiet and it's happy to run at full load without fans.

Image

_________________
Bill


Last edited by BillTodd on Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:54 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:26 pm
Posts: 11963
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
That looks slightly ridiculous... but it's great! Interesting enough for an update of your original article with photos perhaps? email me!

_________________
Mike Chin, SPCR Editor/Publisher
Support SPCR by buying your gear through these links: NCIX, Amazon and Newegg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:17 pm 
Offline
SPCR Reviewer

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 8:22 pm
Posts: 561
Location: Vancouver, BC
Wow... that's a big freakin' heatsink! :shock:

_________________
Zxian.org || Kwikpiks.com
Workstation || Server


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:52 pm 
Offline
*Lifetime Patron*

Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 9:09 am
Posts: 1907
Location: Northern California.
Big? It has its own gravity field fer cry'n out loud!

Nice work, can't wait to see the updated article....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: P3 becomes a P4
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:55 pm 
Offline
SPCR Reviewer

Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:26 pm
Posts: 3998
Location: Phoenix, AZ
BillTodd wrote:
...and an almost ridiculously large heat-sink...


If that thing doesn't qualify I would love to see what you do consider ridiculous. :wink:


Where did you find that thing anyway?

_________________
Senior Contributing Writer, SPCR


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:05 am
Posts: 2
Location: USA
it looks a lot like a tennis ball machine :P


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: flemeister and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group