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 Post subject: Aerocool Masstige A case.Is it good for quiet system build
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:14 am 
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Hi silence fellowmen.
I recently stumbled upon one of these cases and i liked the way it looked and the innovative cooling solution it contains. And it's quite cheap, around 80euros. Please share your opinions with me cause I am so close to buying it but I'm afraid of going wrong. Thankx.


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Hello,

Link please?

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Sorry I forgot to give you a link so here it is.
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/ ... /index.htm


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Looks alright. Do not place this case on carpet, the PSU intake is on the bottom. All the mesh at the front might let out noise.


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Yes I am aware that the mesh bezel can be a problem but I am planing do put some insulation foam to close unwanted drive bays.I will only leave the space for the front fan intake uncovered so i think that will be enough to quiet my sistem.I'm gonna be using Nexus 12cm orange fans at the front and at the back of the case.


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It seems a Stacker look-alike. Skimmed through the article, the Stacker STC-01 and 810 seem more flexible to me than this; they both allow for bottom PSU mounting, and the STC-01 even allows for double PSU, while the 810 can TWO 120 mm fans to achieve great airflow and low noise. The motherboard tray can be removed, and flipped to get an ATX or BTX setup. Also the connectors on the bottom edge are brain damaged.

I would buy the Stacker rather than this ripoff...

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Yes you're right about Stacker.Of course it's a better case but it's price is double than Aerocool case. And this case also can support ATX and BTX mainboards in case you didn't noticed the interior design of the Aerocool case.Only difference is the lack of removable mobo tray and only one exaust fan(but Stacker is a big tower and this one is midi). And who needs double PSU in their configurations?I really don't know.I just want to know about silence capabilities of this case and not the other extra features that more expensive cases have.


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What components are you planning to put in it?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:41 am 
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My specs:
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M57 S4 nforce 570
PCU: AMD Athlon X2 64 4600+ dual core
PCU FAN: Arctic cooling Freezer 64 PRO
RAM: 2 x 1GB Transcend DDR2 PC-800
GPU: ATI Radeon X1800GTO 256MB
GPU COOLING: Arctic Cooling Accelero X2
HDD: WD 320GB SATA Caviar 16mb cache, Maxtor 80GB SATA 8mb cache
OPTICAL DRIVE: Pioneer 108D DVD/RW
HDD RACK


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Good choices, only change I would make is HDD to Samsung HD321KJ. Have you thought about which PSU to get?


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Ranko wrote:
Yes you're right about Stacker.Of course it's a better case but it's price is double than Aerocool case.


Yes the Stacker is not cheap but comes with a boatload of goodies :) I bought mine in 2005, choosing it over the P160 and I'm very happy of it for its flexibility.

In the box there are 2x120 mm fans which are not the quietest in the world but perform (airflow and noise-wise) better than the Antec TriCool, and are only slightly noisier than the Aerocool Turbine (which is close to the Nexus); it has an 80 mm fan, too, it's not bad but you'll probably end using it somewhere else.

You'll also given the option of rubber feet to dampen vibration or wheels if you want to move it easily (useful, it's heavy!); it has filters for all intake vents (except the bottom and right side), comes with a soft-mounted, 120mm-fan-cooled drive bay whose position can be adjusted at will.

It has easy, snap-on mounting for all 5.25" units (including the 3.5" adapter) and a front panel with 6 USB, 1 firewire and audio connectors, that you can put on top for easier access.

And if you get a good, flexible case, you won't need to buy a new one for quite some time :)

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And this case also can support ATX and BTX mainboards in case you didn't noticed the interior design of the Aerocool case.


I don't think BTX will have much success, anyway. There is another reason to flip motherboard, though: if you have an intake duct, and want the intake vent to be as low as possible.

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And who needs double PSU in their configurations?


Extreme watercoolers :) and systems which need to power up a large array of powerful devices (maybe disks and/or peltier cells, TEC coolers) While I agree with you that double PSUs shouldn't be that popular, Antec will release a case which has this feature :)

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I just want to know about silence capabilities of this case and not the other extra features that more expensive cases have.


The mesh on the front is good for airflow but leaves open space for noise to escape. IMO a system should be quiet because it produces little noise, not because it's sealed, but if you want extreme quietness you might fare better with another case.

Otherwise you could just close down the front of the system, leaving only a minimal vent for disk cooling, or close it all if you put the disks in that other tray it seems to have. Just use those three 80mm fans on the side for air intake (even if I'd prefer straight line airflow with front intake)

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PS:

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PCU FAN: Arctic cooling Freezer 64 PRO


If you want quiet computing you better go with another cooler, the freezer is a whiner at 100%.

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Yes actually I have a PSU already.It's a Levicom 450W M-power Proffesional series with a 12cm fan running at 2000RPM (20dB) that comes with a drive bay PSU fan speed controler.I have it for about a year now and I'm very pleased with it so it is going in this case for sure. And it's a little too late to change HDD's cause I have these two already but thanks anyway for the tip.


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J. Sparrow wrote:
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Ranko wrote:
PCU: AMD Athlon X2 64 4600+ dual core
PCU FAN: Arctic cooling Freezer 64 PRO


If you want quiet computing you better go with another cooler, the freezer is a whiner at 100%.


Yes that's true also but I'm using Zalman Fanmate II to slow it at half speed cause it cools my AMD 4600 very nice even on 1000-1200RPM.


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Other cheap and really big tower is Chieftec BA/CA-01.

http://www.pcgamma.com/showthread.php?t=7471

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There's a version of the Masstige that has a door, its called ZeroDegree.


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The airflow in that Chieftec beats me. What's the point in having an exhaust fan above the PSU?

If you duct the PSU, you'll end up with a complete waste of space as the topmost chamber is more or less separated from the rest of the case. Also the disk cage is rotated 90°, not good for airflow.

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J. Sparrow wrote:
The airflow in that Chieftec beats me. What's the point in having an exhaust fan above the PSU?

If you duct the PSU, you'll end up with a complete waste of space as the topmost chamber is more or less separated from the rest of the case. Also the disk cage is rotated 90°, not good for airflow.
Having used predecessor model (DA-01) I can say that keeping optical drives/other 5.25" devices cool is very easy because that fan above PSU draws air from front and between them. (also heat has quite open route for rising upward from lower "portion")
Propably HD cage has been turned 90° for providing more space around motherboard. In certain sense it would also allow making quiet cooling more easily because there aren't fans directly in front panel of case.

IMO biggest minus in that case is 5.25" device attaching method which totally prevents installing short devices (card readers, fan control panels...) without some own mods.
Also new door doesn't have space behind it for adjustment knobs unlike in DA-01.

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EsaT wrote:
I can say that keeping optical drives/other 5.25" devices cool is very easy because that fan above PSU draws air from front and between them.


I can see only one reason for one to provide dedicated airflow to 5.25" devices, that is cooling down radiators.

EsaT wrote:
(also heat has quite open route for rising upward from lower "portion")


I have a case with a similar airflow setup, just behind myself; it has a low front intake fan and a high rear exhaust fan, and the PSU hangs just over the mainboard. It was very difficult to work with: the PSU would get very hot because the CPU is right below it, and mounting an exhaust fan near the CPU would negate the usefulness of the other exhaust.

Maybe it would make more sense to make three different chambers: the topmost used for one or more radiators (if present), a middle one with PSU ducting, and finally the bottom one with all the rest of the system.

However I wouldn't know how to handle that lower chamber; if you use the side vents, there's some kind of short circuit, and most of the fresh air is discharged before even having a chance of reaching the components behind. If you seal the side vents and mount front fans, you have that rotated disk cage which disrupts the air flow towards the hot components in the system.

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