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 Post subject: Ninja Plus Rev.B touch my "caps"
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:27 am 
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Hi there..

Just install the beautifully Ninja on my motherboard. Can i ask you what if Scythe Ninja Rev.B touch the caps - basically one capacitor just a little - of my P5WDH?
Is there any serious problem?

-I did not finished my new PC configuration yet- When i 'm done will post pictures..

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Hi, my Ninja is also touching one of the caps in my Asus A8N-VM CSM motherboard. Nothing has blown up so far (been running it 24/7) for 2 weeks now.

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"Nothing has blown up so far.."

OK..i wish for me too :?
Thanks for your reply.


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MrSpok wrote:
"Nothing has blown up so far.."

OK..i wish for me too :?
Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, it's not much of an answer, but I guess it's better then nothing. I figure that, if there was somekind of electrical hazard for having your caps touch the heatpipe, something would have already happened.

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Mines does the same but in an ASUS K8N. It's been a month and nothing's happened.


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Thank you both guys.. :)


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Or - you can remove the Ninja, grab a dremel tool and just grind a little bit off of the ninja bracket. It just takes a minute. If it's touching the cap, the Ninja may not be seated properly on the cpu.


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja Plus Rev.B touch my "caps"
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MrSpok wrote:
Just install the beautifully Ninja on my motherboard. Can i ask you what if Scythe Ninja Rev.B touch the caps - basically one capacitor just a little - of my P5WDH?
Is there any serious problem?

There is no electrical issue with touching the caps.

The problem is mechanical. Because the bracket is pressing on the caps, it is not pressing on the CPU as much as it should be. This impairs the heat flow from the CPU case to the heat sink base, and results in higher temperatures than would otherwise be the case. In extreme cases, the heat sink base is no longer planar with the CPU IHS, so that only a corner or edge is making contact.

As others have suggested, it is best to file the offending part of the base so there is no mechanical interference.

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja Plus Rev.B touch my "caps"
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cmthomson wrote:
As others have suggested, it is best to file the offending part of the base so there is no mechanical interference.


α) Thank you Mr Thomson for the definite answer :)

β)CA_Steve, so..i need a dremel tool for my problem..somewhere on the internet i saw this technique. thanks for your reply :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja Plus Rev.B touch my "caps"
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MrSpok wrote:
β)CA_Steve, so..i need a dremel tool for my problem..somewhere on the internet i saw this technique. thanks for your reply :wink:

You can file it by hand, however I just go to somewhere that cuts keys and ask them to take a couple of mm of the edge.


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yeah - any type of metal grinder will work a lot faster than using a file!


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CA_Steve wrote:
yeah - any type of metal grinder will work a lot faster than using a file!


..Hmm..i have a better idea for my bloody Scythe Ninja. Did you see that film : The Texas Chainsaw Massacre :shock:

hehe..


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heh. The grinding really isn't a big deal..The big deal is that you have to remove the dang thermal compund and reapply. That will take more time than grinding off a few millimeters of metal.


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I have a Swiftech heatsink in veeeeery close proximity, if not touching a cap, in my wife's computer. Hasn't blown up in 3 months...

Electrically, it wouldn't be much of a concern, but more of a heat concern. However, I talked myself into thinking that the heatsink would hopefully just help cool the cap if it did touch it :P


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psiu wrote:
However, I talked myself into thinking that the heatsink would hopefully just help cool the cap if it did touch it :P


good thinking! 8)


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This is my problem...have a look:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/4410 ... b8.jpg?v=0

I'm going to file it with a grinder and see what comes of it :?


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MrSpok wrote:
This is my problem...have a look:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/4410 ... b8.jpg?v=0

I'm going to file it with a grinder and see what comes of it :?


you need to take that mm off of it. it will make difference for your temperatures since ninja is not making proper contact with your cpu just like cmthomson said


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MrSpok wrote:
This is my problem...have a look:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/4410 ... b8.jpg?v=0

I'm going to file it with a grinder and see what comes of it :?


Have you tried this?
http://www.scythe-usa.com/support/cpu/0 ... ontip.html

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dentaku wrote:


Yes of course...The only way is dremel tool or file. I picked the second.

Thank you all guys. I appreciate your help :)


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http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/vi ... ht=#312645

same for me but in a more significant way :shock: - i was not happy with the situation and gone back to my zalman


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frazered wrote:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=312645&highlight=#312645

same for me but in a more significant way :shock: - i was not happy with the situation and gone back to my zalman


After file the offending part of the base..the Ninja is in good repair now (CPU Temp: 30 C) :wink:

I took some pictures of my" SPCR inspired" PC. Will post it soon :!:


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congrats!


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The Ninja also touched caps on my DS3...luckily I have access to a grinder at school, so i fixed the offending bracket edge in ~30 seconds or so. dropped temps nearly 10 degrees at load.

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Although I don't have a Ninja heatsink, my Zalman has been pushing against a capacitor for two years. It does not have metal-to-metal contact though, it pushes against the plastic/vinyl wrapper.
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 Post subject: Re: Ninja Plus Rev.B touch my "caps"
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I'm actually quite happy to pay a bit more money for something I can buy locally from one of the shops here in Darwin,all it takes is a short Bus ride .... :lol:


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