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 Post subject: Re: 2GB ram
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:58 pm 
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Buck Futter wrote:
Bios recognizes my 2GB stick of ram.
Installing windows right now. So far, so good.


Awesome. I'm baffled why these boards support 2 gigs but Intel keeps saying they don't? Weird. Be interested to see if it's stable for you. What kind of RAM was it?

Still surprised it's not available at the Egg yet.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:17 pm 
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Ahhhh!!!! I spoke too soon.

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I actually suspected that this drive might have been damaged before I installed it. I opened the box and found that the drive had a razor blade slash across the face of it right over the label that covers the bearing. The cut goes through the antistatic bag also, but the rest of the packaging was fine. It looks like someone at NewEgg hit it with a box cutter when they were unpacking it. I installed it anyway because I didn't feel like sending it back. It's a 120 sata notebook drive, in case you were wondering.

Anyway, I tried to format it several times and got the same error message. Just for kicks, I stuck a 1GB stick in, rebooted, and everything seems to be working fine. I'm not positive, but I think the drive is fine and the board truly doesn't run with a 2GB stick of ram. Maybe somebody else can confirm.

I'll try and put the 2gig stick back after windows installs and see what happens.


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syburgh.........The aluminum and all-copper versions of the Swiftech heatsink are virtually the same. The metal of the pins was the only difference. I really doubt these things would work well in low airflow, without the pin modification.

I never even tried running the fan that came with the aluminum version. It's been running fanless on the hot northbridge of an 875 chipset for several years.

To bend the fins easily.....take a thin sheet of metal like a paint scraper, and bend one whole row at a time. Fairly easy if you're careful.....

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Does anybody knows if Noctua NC-U6 can be fitted instead of CPU, northbridge or both heatsinks?

Noctua support answered "they think it's possible" but it didn't sound very confident.

The same question about Thermalright HR-05-SLI.


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Installed windows and put the 2gig stick back in. It seems to be running fine.

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Buck Futter,

You should try to run memtest at boot to check for errors.


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Whats the powerusage for the system.
Thanks


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Has anyone tryed to run any 64-bit OSes on this. Just wondering to see how well it works with it.


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jrscherer wrote:
Has anyone tryed to run any 64-bit OSes on this. Just wondering to see how well it works with it.


CentOS (Redhat clone) x86_64 has no problems. Works as well as any other Intel system in x86_64 mode.


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My Zalman northbridge heatsink came in but I could not make it fit.
The brackets included can not be configured to match the loops on the mobo.
I ended up finding an old P2 alum black 2" sq heatsink in my junk box and used the original spring clip to install it with arctic silver grease. It's a tight fit but I got it in there. Makes a noticeable difference on temps ... able to to touch it without burning myself during memtest. I couldn't keep my finger on it before.


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Just installed Windows Server 2003 this afternoon, when get home will be doing some things on it to see how it runs.


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Received my PICO-120 and the 110 watt power brick today.

Friction tight fit ... but it does plug in.
1/64th of an inch more clearance would be needed.
It's jammed in there like a wedge under a door.

Also received a Fujitsu 100 gig SATA 5200 rpm notebook hdd.

I tried Acronis True Image 8 boot cd but it could't find the hdd.
I got my hands on a True Image version 9 boot cd, was able to image the hdd to my FreeNas system over the lan and was successful at cloning the old hdd to the new Fujitsu.

The system makes very little noise now that I changed the hdd and power supply 8)


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yamawho,

Thanks for the info on the zalman. I am getting a couple of short socket 7 heatsinks (cheap is good) to fit in the new case that is apparently traveling across the plains by ox cart.

The ubuntu drivers at the ubuntu forums work well. Dvd video scales to full screen and no artifacts. I had to modify the xorg.conf file though. Have you had a chance to try a dvd at full screen? I suspect that many reports of no trouble with video are from people using vesa drivers. For nas they should be fine but for more demanding work proper drivers are needed.


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 Post subject: SPCR's review: Intel D201GLY2 Mini-ITX mainboard
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:53 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:40 am 
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To confirm the absence of any EIST related controls in the BIOS, we tried setting the power management in Windows to Minimal Power, with no drop in idle power, which should happen if EIST is enabled. The processor may simply not support it, as it is considered an Ultra Low Voltage part.


it's a Celeron, remember? cellys never have speedstep.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:18 pm 
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FYI for dwellers of the UK, there is no-one in the UK that sells this board (unless you want to have it shipped from another country and buy it via eBay).

So I sent an e-mail to the people at:

http://www.itx-warehouse.co.uk/

Who are proudly advertising and selling the D201GLY on their front page.

I will let you know their response.


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I am thinking of trying 2-gig stick of G.Skill DDR2 5300 (667) RAM with it, do you think that will work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231119

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So, I have an old Socket 478 IS7-G motherboard, with the updated northbridge, http://www2.abit.com.tw/upload/products/IC7-MAX3-500.jpg. It pretty much is that heatsink, anyone think that would be a nice one to do.

And must say this board does run Windows Server 2003 very well, pretty quick actually, running it with a WD3200KS at the moment and an old Sony CD burner until I get another DVD burner.


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 Post subject: Re: SPCR's review: Intel D201GLY2 Mini-ITX mainboard
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:47 pm 
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MikeC wrote:


Nice review, it's great to see more information out there about these boards.

One thing that I've found though, is that the D201GLY2 actually uses more power than the D201GLY (IIRC the German review posted earlier in this thread reported the same thing). I just did a few quick tests, but I found that the Celeron 220 did benchmark better than the 215, unlike that review.
I have both boards and tested them with the exact same components: 3.5" IDE HD, 1GB ram, and a Linpo Japan 80W power brick with DC/DC converter.

Using the Kill-A-Watt the D201GLY board showed 31W at idle and 36-38 under load.
The D201GLY2 with the exact same components mentioned above showed 35W at idle and 42-45 under load.


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vincentfox wrote:
I am thinking of trying 2-gig stick of G.Skill DDR2 5300 (667) RAM with it, do you think that will work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231119


According to Intel's site:

"Memory

* One 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Inline Memory Module (DIMM) sockets
* Support for DDR2 667 MHz, DDR2 533 MHz and DDR2 400 MHz DIMMs (DDR 667 MHz validated to run at 533 MHz only)
* Support for up to 1 GB of system memory."

Based solely on the size (2 GB vs 1 GB), I'd guess that your stick won't work.

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I noticed that the last bios update has to do with memory issues ...

BIOS Version 0134
About This BIOS:
November 6, 2007
LY66210M.86A.0134.2007.1106.1743
New Fixes/Features:
Fixed issue where certain memory modules caused instability.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Filter_ ... %20Systems


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Check out the quick tour on the Intel® Integrator Toolkit here ...

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/so ... ources.htm

The Intel® Integrator Toolkit is a utility for PC OEMs and professional system integrators building systems with Intel® Desktop Boards. This easy to use, yet powerful application, helps streamline and automate the manufacturing process while allowing replication of customized system configurations.


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 Post subject: Re: SPCR's review: Intel D201GLY2 Mini-ITX mainboard
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jdmc wrote:
The D201GLY2 with the exact same components mentioned above showed 35W at idle and 42-45 under load.

Can confirm this measurement-- I see about 29-30W idle and 37W under full CPU load using a similar DC PSU (picoPSU-120) and CF card in lieu of hard drive.


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SZ wrote:
Does anybody knows if Noctua NC-U6 can be fitted instead of CPU, northbridge or both heatsinks?

Noctua support answered "they think it's possible" but it didn't sound very confident.

The same question about Thermalright HR-05-SLI.


I have the thermalright HR-05-SLI on my cpu on the original D201GLY, with the heatpipes sticking out out away from the northbridge. Since it's the same PCB for the D201GLY2, it will work.
It won't fit in every orientation though - some capacitors are in the way. Check this pic:
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You may be better off with a normal HR-05.


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What about using the ThermalRight HR-05 on the chipset instead of CPU?

I was thinking to replace the CPU heatsink with something even larger still.

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So here is what the heatsink I was talking about looks like on the motherboard, it's actually just slightly warm to the touch and is running really quiet personally.
http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heatsinkjk2.jpg

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vincentfox wrote:
What about using the ThermalRight HR-05 on the chipset instead of CPU?

I was thinking to replace the CPU heatsink with something even larger still.


I haven't tried it, and the northbridge is closer to the memory so i think that rules out at least 1 if not 3 orientations (I think the DIMM would be in the way of the heatpipes). The top of the memory just clears the lowest fin, but the fins have little lips sticking out downwards, and this is not clearing the memory - easy to remedy, just bend the lip back to horizontal.
I am not very happy with the attachment clip on the HR-05-SLI though - it does not put enough pressure on the heatsink (turns around really easily). I've added some spacers between the clip and the base of the heatsink but it is still loose. Saying that, the cpu is 29 degrees in bios and I don't load it much so it is probably fine.

I'm not aware of any bigger heatsinks that have the chipset attachment method (hooks). What heatsink are you thinking of, and are you going to make your own attachment mechanism?


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murtoz wrote:
I'm not aware of any bigger heatsinks that have the chipset attachment method (hooks). What heatsink are you thinking of, and are you going to make your own attachment mechanism?


Maybe the Noctua or Nexus chipset heatsinks? Both of them come with hardware for multiple attachment schemes, including mounting-hooks. I've only seen a couple of reviews on the web comparing the two, but both of them had the Noctua offering slightly better at dissipating heat. Neither of the comparative reviews were on sites that I trust, so caveat emptor.

Nexus also makes a Socket 779/mini-itx cooler that might work.


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Murtoz, I was actually thinking of the "straight-up" version of the ThermalRight HR-05. This one:

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I posted some pics of my new build here ...

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/f8/new-in ... 11482.html

I really need to get a photobucket account :roll:

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