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 Post subject: Nearly Complete Quiet Build
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:00 pm 
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After ~8 months of researching, planning, building, thumb-twiddling and finally re-building, my quiet home/office PC build is effectively finished. (I say nearly complete because as we all know the desire to tinker is ever-present.) The computer is very quiet, definitely more quiet than any PC I have ever owned. I am extremely happy with the "end"-result, and owe the vast majority of my success to this great forum. As a token of my gratitude, I have taken some pictures to share with you all. (The only camera I have is a webcam, so you will have to excuse the image quality...)


Here it is in its natural environment:

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You doubtless recognize the Antec P183 under the desk. The monitor is an HP LP2475w; the speaker system is a cheap pair of Creative Labs speakers (Gigaworks T20); the headphones are Sennheiser PX100; a Logitech illuminated keyboard and MX620 mouse round out the peripherals.

The P183 houses the following components:

ASUS P5Q-E motherboard,
Intel E8500 processor,
Thermalright HR-01 Plus CPU heatsink,
8 gig of Corsair DDR2 RAM,
Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS sound card (an oldie but a goodie),
Gigabyte Radeon HD 4670 video card,
Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev 2 VGA cooler,
WD Velociraptor 1500BLFS boot drive,
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB storage drive,
LG CH08-LS10 Blu Ray drive,
Scythe Kaze Master Ace fan controller,
Scythe Slip Stream 1200RPM case fans,
Scythe S-Flex 1200RPM PSU fan,
Corsair VX450 PSU.

Pictures of the innards:

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I have three case fans installed at the moment. One each at the front and rear of the main compartment, and one attached to the CPU heatsink. The GPU is passively cooled.

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I have blocked off the top fan opening, the rectangular opening at the back of the case where the Antec fan controller usually sits, and the two circular water-cooling holes at the back of the case. I have covered most of the bare metal surfaces with sound-damping material. There is also a foam block in the bottom 5.25" bay filling the space behind the fan controller.

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I rigged a custom hard-drive suspension in order to decouple both hard-drives from the chassis. I used a few feet of shock cord from my local hardware store, some zip-ties, and the standard mounting screws. I mounted the smaller, quieter velociraptor in the main compartment, and the larger, louder Samsung in the bottom.

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The Accelero S1 dwarfs the HD 4670. It may be overkill, but it keeps the GPU nice and cool without the need for an extra fan. I don't do very much graphics intensive computing so this card fits my needs perfectly. It is a tight fit with the sound card directly above it, however the Audidy 2 uses an old PCI slot, so my placement options were limited.

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After initially building the system approximately three months ago, I was not satisfied with its acoustic properties. At the time I had installed the stock PSU, had installed a case fan in the top position, had not installed any damping material, and had not plugged any holes. Recently I removed the S-Flex from the top of my case, and used it to replace the stock ADDA fan in the PSU. While I had the PSU open I also installed a temperature probe, and connected both the fan and the probe to the fan controller (instead of the PSU board). In the picture you can see the lead wires for the fan and probe exiting the PSU, as well as the shiny screws on the top of the housing (the blasted Phillips head screws installed at the factory stripped immediately so I had to drill the screws out to get at the fan.) I initially bought a Nexus Value 430 power supply which should have been quiet enough to use without modification. However, as you may be aware, I had to return that unit as it would not work with the circuit breakers installed in my apartment.

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The fan controller keeps all of the fans running at about 600RPM. The temperature probes are connected to (from left to right): RAM heatsink, Velociraptor, Spinpoint, PSU.

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I can't really think of a better descriptor than "very quiet" for the acoustic properties of this computer (thanks to lack of imagination on my part...). I have fairly sensitive ears, yet what sound the computer makes I find easy to ignore while sitting at my desk. The unit sits in my bedroom/office (ahh student life...) and though I an a fairly light sleeper I can leave my computer on through the night without any disturbance (this may not sound remarkable, but is a first for me).

Having just completely reassembled the entire thing, I am not champing at the bit to make further modifications. However, when I get around to it I will probably consider either weighting the hard drives or investing in hard drive enclosures in order to further reduce seek/read/write noise. Also, having monitored temperatures for a few months I know the normal range that the MB/CPU/GPU hover around. So I may try turning off the case fans, and seeing how that impacts temperatures. However, I don't think the case fans are the loudest component at the moment (I suspect that particular honour goes to the PSU... still...). I don't know what else I can do about the PSU, but am considering attaching a muffler to the rear of my case.

Finally, two gratuitous beauty shots:

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I really can't overstate how essential this forum was to this project. Thanks to all of the editors and members for creating such a valuable compendium of information on quiet computing, and thanks to everyone who responded to my queries and pleas for help.

I am happy to entertain any questions or comments you may have.

Cheers,
Whisper


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 Post subject: Re: Nearly Complete Quiet Build
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:01 pm 
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Nice build. Any reason why you didn't suspend both the hard drives in the bottom chamber? Then you can install the upper hard drive cage and move the intake fan closer to the graphics card.

whisper wrote:
the speaker system is a cheap pair of Creative Labs speakers (Gigaworks T20)


Those are cheap? Don't they retail for like $80+? I guess they would be if you're into studio-quality audio equipment. But to me that's premium pricing for 2.0 speakers.


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Looks great. It makes me want to get around to applying some soundproofing to my P182.

FWIW, I'm now finding my Slipstream 1200 at 5V and soft-mounted at the front of my case as the loudest part of my gaming system, so you might want to see how your temps go if you remove this fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Nearly Complete Quiet Build
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm 
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PartEleven wrote:
Nice build. Any reason why you didn't suspend both the hard drives in the bottom chamber? Then you can install the upper hard drive cage and move the intake fan closer to the graphics card.


Thanks. The reason why I removed both cages was for simplicity and flexibility inside the case. The reason for separating the drives was future expansion. I am a bit of a pack rat; 1TB will hold me for a while, but eventually I will want to put another storage drive in the bottom compartment.

PartEleven wrote:
Those are cheap? Don't they retail for like $80+? I guess they would be if you're into studio-quality audio equipment. But to me that's premium pricing for 2.0 speakers.


I suppose I meant cheap in terms of quality. You're right, they are not cheap for retail on a set of 2.0 PC speakers. They do their job acceptably, but if I want to listen to music I head into the living room and switch on the hi-fi.

JamieG wrote:
Looks great. It makes me want to get around to applying some soundproofing to my P182.

FWIW, I'm now finding my Slipstream 1200 at 5V and soft-mounted at the front of my case as the loudest part of my gaming system, so you might want to see how your temps go if you remove this fan.


Thanks. Good call on the front fan. I am going to leave things as they are until next week so I can get a good feeling for how the latest batch of mods affects my temperatures. But after that I will try switching it off and seeing if I can live without it.


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 Post subject: Re: Nearly Complete Quiet Build
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:16 am 
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whisper wrote:
Hello

After ~8 months of researching, planning, building, thumb-twiddling and finally re-building, my quiet home/office PC build is effectively finished. (I say nearly complete because as we all know the desire to tinker is ever-present.) The computer is very quiet, definitely more quiet than any PC I have ever owned. I am extremely happy with the "end"-result, and owe the vast majority of my success to this great forum. As a token of my gratitude, I have taken some pictures to share with you all. (The only camera I have is a webcam, so you will have to excuse the image quality...)
Whisper


Very neat build.
Any particular reason you flipped the PSU upside down?
Also, since your box sits so close to the desk's "wall", you might wanna consider fastening like a small rug or a thick towel on the side to minimize any noise escaping from the 120 mm case fan and its hole.
I don't have any window/curtains behind my computer so I took a wooden frame, dressed it with an old rug with a small piece of foam underneath it... I found it helped reducing the turbulence noise from the fan considerably.

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 Post subject: Re: Nearly Complete Quiet Build
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:25 am 
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new2spcr wrote:

Very neat build.
Any particular reason you flipped the PSU upside down?
Also, since your box sits so close to the desk's "wall", you might wanna consider fastening like a small rug or a thick towel on the side to minimize any noise escaping from the 120 mm case fan and its hole.
I don't have any window/curtains behind my computer so I took a wooden frame, dressed it with an old rug with a small piece of foam underneath it... I found it helped reducing the turbulence noise from the fan considerably.


Thanks. The reason why I mounted the PSU upside down is the PSU platform in the P183. It may be hard to tell from the pictures, but the platform is raised <1" from the floor of the case. It is open only at the ends to allow airflow, and one of the openings is very close to the back of the case. Thus I reckoned that mounting the PSU with the fan drawing air from the top would result in a less restricted flow of air through the unit. As an added benefit, the space under the PSU is perfect for hiding unused power cables.

Your carpet/towel idea is great. I had considered doing just that (that's what I meant by a "muffler"), and I'm glad to hear that you have had success with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Nearly Complete Quiet Build
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:51 am 
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whisper wrote:
Thanks. The reason why I mounted the PSU upside down is the PSU platform in the P183. It may be hard to tell from the pictures, but the platform is raised <1" from the floor of the case. It is open only at the ends to allow airflow, and one of the openings is very close to the back of the case. Thus I reckoned that mounting the PSU with the fan drawing air from the top would result in a less restricted flow of air through the unit. As an added benefit, the space under the PSU is perfect for hiding unused power cables.

Your carpet/towel idea is great. I had considered doing just that (that's what I meant by a "muffler"), and I'm glad to hear that you have had success with it.



PSU - Well, I thank you for the tip. I might implement it on my P182 = hopefully better airflow and less restriction for the fan.

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beautiful!
Well done job.

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