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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:05 pm 
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The Apple Mighty Mouse is quite possibly one of the most versatile mice a home user can have with their setup. Compatible with Mac OS X (10.4.8 and newer only) and also with Windows XP and 2000 surprisingly, Apple was surprisingly trying to make something anyone could buy. Through my testing it also works very will in Ubuntu Linux, x86 and x64 no less for any OS. Now, of course, its really not for everyone.

The Apple Mighty Mouse can use proprietary drivers in Windows XP, however you wouldn't want to, as you would have 4 unused buttons. Left and Right click work out of the box, and the scroll ball works as well, however the side buttons are not as tame, and their effect has varied throughout the boxes I've used this with.

For anyone who's taken apart a mouse in the past, more specifically a two button mouse with or without a scroll wheel, you notice that there really isn't much to brag about inside there, just two buttons respectively for left and right click, and your scroll wheel, limited to vertical movement on screen. If you've ever dared to see the inside of a Mighty Mouse, well, you'll learn a few things about Apple. Of those things, the main one is that they don't like the end user servicing their products. In fact, there are 10 spots where the Mighty Mouse is glued to have the lower light grey ring in place. If you can't get that piece off though, you can't get the mouse apart. You'll probably also notice that there's a second smaller light grey ring on the bottom of the mouse, but thats not glued in place, so don't worry about that, it can simply be carefully pulled off and replaced with ease.
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The inards of this mouse however, are more than just your standard field *ahem* PS/2 or USB mouse.
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Sporting either optical or laser tracking (depending on if you get the USB or Bluetooth model), this mouse is quite precise, however, you'll notice that if you use it in Windows or OS X, the tracking may seem very slow, almost pathetic unless you increase the speed immensely. Personally, I have this mouse sped all the way up in OS X, and it still feels a little sluggish to me. However, there are more important parts to this mouse that you need to take into consideration. The fact that this mouse has left and right click is simply amazing when you get inside it, its one of the many technological wonders of the computer world. There's one button for clicking, yet somehow, you're able to right click. Somehow. The Mighty Mouse also sports a 360 degree scroll wheel. This little mouse, which is actually smaller than most mice (not counting laptop wireless mice), is capable of scrolling in any direction on screen, making it very easy to move around web pages in small screens, or large pictures that don't fit completely on your screen.
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In OS X, squeezing the side buttons will open Expose, which will display all of your windows, which is a very handy feature, makes it easier to have many windows open at any given time, for any type of editing, or for typing papers, where you're switching between websites and your choice of text editor. On many mice, pushing down on the scroll wheel will allow you to actually scroll by moving the mouse up or down, however, it differs in OS X, as it will open up Dashboard, and show you all your widgets.
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This is definately not a gaming mouse, it doesn't track nearly fast as it should for a gamer, that and the right click involves lifting up the finger you left click with, so any game would just be a hassle. But that's no issue for an OS X user, as there are so few games made for OS X, it really doesn't matter. For Windows, the included software allows you to program your Mighty Mouses buttons to do what you want, just like you can in OS X, however don't expect to be able to find a Mighty Mouse without the software and do this, the Software that allows you to program the mouse buttons is only available with the mouse, so don't lose that CD!

The Mighty Mouse that I'm using you'll notice is not sporting its white tail, as it was actually destroyed as having a Mighty Mouse in school really isn't on my big list of advice for anyone. Kids start fighting over who's doing what, and all of a sudden you've torn the USB cable. Well, actually the USB cable has been modified and fixed to work, this mouse is missing both grey rings from the bottom, and it has problems scrolling, first it was the left, now its up, however aside from complaining about that, I'll give it to you as if it were a different mouse, that wasn't sporting a completely custom made cable.
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The inside is laid out basically on top of itself, the scroll wheel and sensors for the buttons each have their own ribbon cable, that is plugged into a small circuit board that is almost the size of the bottom of the mouse. Neither cable obstructs the other, and there is no stress point for it, I should also note how firmly they stay in place. One completely unrevealed secret of the Mighty Mouse is that its only got one button on the circuit board.there's no way to tell how you get it to right click, so take it from me, there may actually be magic in this world. That, or we may as well get the X-Files back to solve this one.
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The Mighty Mouse is purely albino, you can't buy one with a black tail, or in fact any other color but white with light grey. Under it all however, is very low gauge wire, so don't tug on your USB cable from either side, it really cannot take it. The Scroll wheel, though I have no pictures, is independently controlled depending on the direction you move the ball. instead of only two sensors for the mouse, there are 4 separate sensors for sensing each direction.
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The optical beam, and the laser guiding system for this mouse is also extremely bright, so exercise your upmost caution when lifting it up to show anyone while it's plugged in, you don't want to hurt anyone with a silly apple product, now do you?
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The tail-less Mighty Mouse which is exclusively bluetooth, is quite frugal for a mouse, operating on one or two AA batteries, so it's weight depends on what you have in it, which will ultimately affect how it performs. The USB Mighty Mouse weighs less than 3oz, and truly is worth its money for those who like it, however it does cost nearly $60USD, the Bluetooth is closer to $70USD. For an additional $12 you can add a 3 foot USB extension, and most users will want it unless they plug into their keyboard, the roughly 16 inch tail doesn't reach very far. However, one thing to note about the USB Mighty Mouse is that it is not USB2.0. Its strictly USB1.1 speed, however it will work in both a USB 1.1 or USB 2.0 port. The Bluetooth Mighty Mouse is much more sensitive to surfaces however, as the laser system is actually 20 times more sensitive than the standard Optical guiding on the USB version. The Bluetooth mouse is capable of giving flawless work on 1 inch thick glass without anything under the glass.

Its definately not a silent mouse, but its one of the quieter mice in the world, as it requires quite a firm touch, however the scroll ball is a quaint relief from the normal mouse, as instead of a rough loud click, its a soft, higher tone thats much more tolerable, and even quite fun to hear sometimes.

Overall, the Mighty Mouse is worth every penny for those who like it, however you will definitely want to use it before you buy it, because you may not like it, its definitely not for everyone. Its very well built, and has many features most mice available today cannot supply a user with, however at the same time it is not the most durable of mice, so its definitely a "Handle With Care" object, as fixing it requires breaking it somewhere else, which is a major hit unless you're still within warrantee. I'd easily suggest this to anyone who does editing of any kind, 3D, Audio, Video, Imaging, its a great help, looks great, and performs amazingly.

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this review is not meant to endorse apple, simply make a great product known. next up is my sound card if i have time. pictures were taken with a Canon Power Shot S410 Digital Elf, i had poor lighting in some, which would account for the lack of quality...i may have to take the mouse apart again, so i may be able to re-do some of them. shots taken around my computer are to show that it does work, and its size [and yes i do run OSx86, and it recognizes the mouse perfectly, as well as the pro keyboard i was using]. i hope you all like it, i've been working on it for the past hour about.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:28 am 
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You mentioned that it works in Ubuntu -- quite interesting to me, as I run Gentoo. How well does it work in Linux? Any special drivers needed? Or evdev? Does the 360-deg. scroll ball work just as well as in OSX? And how about right-clicking? Still the pain it probably is in FPS-type games? (UT2004 on Gentoo, I'm lookin' at you.)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:05 am 
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What happens when dirt accumulates around the little ball and therefore inside the mouse? How do you clean it?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:24 am 
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Dirt is the downfall of the mighty mouse. i actually just got mine back together again after cleaning it. when dirt accumulates on the scroll wheel, it really kills it, and can leave you unable to scroll in any direction.

the only way to clean it is to take it apart. theres a picture where i have the scroll ball assembly pictured, you can easily pop that white piece off and clean it all, however its very small in there, and there are 4 directional sensors packed in there. instead of being controlled by a strobe, its actually magnetic. if the magnet is unable to turn, then you're out of the water.

in Ubuntu Linux [which is all i run due to an array of failed installs of other distros] left and right click worked as well as the scroll wheel, i hadn't changed anything, nor did i even think of ever needing a driver for it. I don't see why it would be different in other builds, however this coming week i could install a few distros in VMWare and test it out. One of the main things to know is that its slow tracking, so you may or may not need to increase tracking to suit your preference. when right clicking, you need to lift up the finger you left click with [as its based on a pressure/touch sensor and just one button].

going back into Linux, or at least x64 for a few minutes [my first bout with a Mighty Mouse was in x86] i've found that the left/right scrolling will not work, only up and down. For beryl users, don't play with it too much on your desktop, the scrolling is much more sensitive, and the cube will seem to go crazy. In going into the Mouse Preferences, its not really noticed as anything special, and you're left using what you have. The two side buttons on the mouse act as a grab effect, so holding them down and moving the mouse will move text around, so if anything unexpected happens, Ctrl + Z! Left/Right click is flawless, so you'll have no trouble there, but the left/right scrolling isn't as easy and handed to you.

http://game-sat.com/~brian/Howtos/AppleMightyMouse.htm
^that is a Gentoo specific method of making all aspects of a Mighty Mouse usable in Linux for those interested.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223576
^that is a way to make the Mighty Mouse work in Ubuntu. As the Mighty Mouse will not be my permanent mouse, I am not going to change my settings for it, however those directions are proven to work. If I do end up getting to keep the mouse however, I will change my settings.

It may have been coincidence that the left/right scrolling worked in 32bit that one time, but i'm not sure it will again after really putting it to task in x64. Aside from that minor bug, the Mighty Mouse is truly mighty, and with minor tweaking in Linux and the driver install in Windows, its a completely cross platform compatible mouse right out of the box.

A few things to know are that the scrolling is very touchy left and right with the mouse. In Gimp, using left/right scrolling [and in OS X i might add] had caused it to crash several times, so you don't want to overuse it, and if its acting sluggish in a specific application, just don't use it there, its not worth crashing over. Also, it can be killed with dirt. Any normal mouse is just screwed together, you can clean it and even modify the buttons to be quieter, however with a mighty mouse, the only way in is to break it. An odd fact about the Mighty Mouse is that its scroll ball does not make its own noise. In fact, almost all the noise from a Mighty Mouse's ball are made by a small speaker located where the right click button would be. This was discovered as the mouse would make no noise unplugged [aside from the actual click]. Your scroll wheel [although nice] has too many sensors to be cross platform right away, however minor tweaking or a driver can solve all problems instantly. I normally use a mouse pad with all my mice [ball, or optical] because it gives a smooth, non-reflective surface for it to operate on. My Logitech Wireless mouse [part of the EX110 combo] would not work on top of my desk, which has pieces of plexiglas on it to reduce the scratches and protect the finish. The Mighty Mouse is exactly the same, giving no response, however the Bluetooth version is much better on odd surfaces, as its laser guided rather than optically guided. The Mighty Mouse is also slow, being limited to USB 1.1 speeds, so on computers with USB 2.0 ports, although it will work, it will lag at times, as its transfer rate will not be very high compared to any other devices. And lastly, like a real live mouse, you don't want to pull the Mighty Mouse's tail.

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Somehow it can right click... amazing technology we have today. I fell in love with the Mighty Mouse when I first started using them at school - but then it clicked - why would I ever what to give up usability and ergonomics for a cool miniature wheel which in itself presents a huge design flaw 2 months later.....


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i'd probably hate my mouse more if it weren't broken. i mean, it's not hard to use, it's just easier to take apart and clean. i've tried cleaning it the "apple way" and it doesn't do a thing.

as for the clicking, well, you can always muffle the speaker if you break open your mouse, or you can take out the speaker. that's it though.

i find the mouse to be great even despite the flaws, but i find just like any other mouse or keyboard, as i'm using a different keyboard now, it's purely subjective. first i used a plain wireless keyboard, now i'm running an ergonomic wireless keyboard. the EX110 has terrible battery performance, using just two AAA batteries, however this one, with just two AA batteries gets exponentially longer life from the batteries. i got this keyboard in august, and i've changed the batteries once! the EX110 was nearly once a week!

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these is only USB connector mouse or in PS2 or serials port.


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