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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:01 pm 
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You might find the issue is a lack of TRIM, not stutter. It is possible that a secure erase and reinstall of your data would return it to near-new performance levels.

All of the first-generation issues (partition alignment, stutter, TRIM) are now nonexistent with the combination of a higher-end SSD and Windows 7. SLC is still mostly used just for enterprise editions.


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 Post subject: Re: SSD MLC Based HD use in old laptops. Will it [STUTTER]?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:02 am 
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OK another year has gone by and still using the same laptop configuration with my trusty Windows 2000 and Transcend 64GB IDE SSD. I've been trying to keep updated on SSD technology and it appears that virtually 99% of the manufacturers are only interested in SATA. Of the few makes for IDE, they're mostly overseas brands mainly in HK/China like Kingspec and Photofast. The only advancement i've seen with IDE SSD is a change in the controller that uses 'garbage collection' - not to be confused with TRIM. I think there was 1 make that did have an IDE SSD with Trim support but it costed a fortune (by an order of 4 times what a sata HD of the same capacity) and was aimed towards an upgrade for Macbook laptops.

Anyways I wanted to post a major discovery. After reading the OCZ forums of users in their 1st gen. SSDs (that had no trim or GC support), they suggested using this program Perfect Disk 10 and their AS Cleaner program. After using the 2 programs and following the directions http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?64753-A-simple-guide-for-speeding-up-EOL-OCZ-SSD-s.here, I could not believe what has happened to my laptop. Not only boot speed was faster but also it eliminated all signs of any studdering. probably the most important improvement ever. Before my SSD was so bogged down that during boot after the desktop appears, it would pause for some 15-20secs before I could click on a desktop icon. But after this moment of studder, the laptop runs as normal (no real studdering when using as normal).

Initially when I looked to install Perfect Disk, their website had their latest version 12. Not surprisingly, Windows 2000 was not supported. Then I hunted for version 11, again same issue. It wasn't until I found version 10 (as originally documented on OCZ forum) that it would work in Windows 2000. After running it's consolidating free space defrag, I couldn't run the next step program AS Cleaner because of missing dlls. What I had to do is install the MS Net Framwork 2.0 so for those on Win2k OS, it helps to have it installed.

The other aspect of using these 2 programs is i'm not sure how useful they would be the new SSD drives where their controller chip supports Trim or garbage collection. I've been reading that for those on raid, using PD offers a 'trim' like solution. Regarding to the controller chips with garbage collection, they say that using PD and AS Clean does not good as this is the job what garbage collection does. So I assume that using theses 2 programs would be less useful on SSDs that have GC built-in. But for users of budget SDDs like the early Transcend SSDs, this is a MAJOR improvement.


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 Post subject: Re: SSD MLC Based HD use in old laptops. Will it [STUTTER]?
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Again another year and the Compaq laptop is still in service. However earlier in the year the laptop was taken down by various viruses which I had to take the hard drive out and scan it few times. Spent some time in the registry to inspect the damage, etc. The result was quite bad that many key Windows system files were corrupt so I re-loaded Win2K OS again (no format, just a complete recovery). The laptop works excellent.


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 Post subject: Re: SSD MLC Based HD use in old laptops. Will it [STUTTER]?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:44 pm 
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Super_BQ wrote:
OK another year has gone by and still using the same laptop configuration with my trusty Windows 2000 and Transcend 64GB IDE SSD. I've been trying to keep updated on SSD technology and it appears that virtually 99% of the manufacturers are only interested in SATA.

Use a compact IDE-SATA bridge. If you take the sdd out of its case, it's possible to squeeze them both into the hdd compartment, or at least was for me in an old-ass laptop.


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