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Which 2 TB 5X00 rpm
SAMSUNG HD204UI Spinpoint F4 2TB 32MB 5400rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s 92,91USD+Taxes (%18) 36 months warranty 60%  60%  [ 3 ]
WESTERNDIGITAL WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB 64MB SATA 3.0Gb/s 97,97USD+Taxes(%18) 2+3 years (limited) warranty 40%  40%  [ 2 ]
SEAGATE ST2000DL003 Green 2TB 64MB 5900rpm SATA 6.0Gb/s 88,77USD+Taxes(%18) 24 months warranty 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 Green
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:23 am 
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I want a fast at read/write bulk big/small files, economic (prices are similar to each other), reliable (cannot afford another crash) and silent 2 TB HDD at (at 5k segment for price) for constant use

At real time conditions they say 7200 rpm harddisks are already %30 faster than 5k rpm harddisks (does that true), StorageReview.com reviews say F4 is better than Seagate but howcome it is if 5400 k already slower than 5900

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SEAGATE ST2000VX002 SV35 2TB 64MB 5900rpm SATA 6.0Gb/s 104,87 USD+Taxes(%18) 24 months standard warranty
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/produc ... 35_series/
I suppose this one is for reconding camera outputs 24 h / 7 days therefore it is expensive/reliable

WESTERNDIGITAL WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB 64MB SATA 3.0Gb/s 97,97 USD+Taxes(%18) 60 months 2 + 3 years (limited) warranty
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=120

SAMSUNG HD204UI Spinpoint F4 2TB 32MB 5400rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s 92,91 USD+Taxes(%18) 36 months standard warranty
Review: http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_sp ... ew_hd204ui
Discussion: http://forums.storagereview.com/index.p ... iscussion/

SEAGATE ST2000DL003 Green 2TB 64MB 5900rpm SATA 6.0Gb/s 88,77 USD+Taxes (%18) 24 months standard warranty
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/produc ... entReviews
http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_ba ... t2000dl003


Samsung Spinpoint F4EG (HD204UI) / Seagate ST2000DL003 Specs
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SATA 3 Gb/s / 6 Gb/s interface
Cache 32MB / 64 MB
Spin Speed 5400 / 5900 RPM
Average Seek time - 8.9 ms
Data Transfer Rate / Media to/from Buffer(Max.) - 250MB/sec / -
Data Transfer Rate / Buffer to/from Host(Max.) - 300MB/sec / -
Average Latency 5.52 ms / 4.16ms
Drive Ready Time(typical) - 13 sec / -
Non-recoverable Read Error 1 sector in 1015 bits / -

Areal density (avg) - / 422Gb/in
Sustained data transfer rate - / 144Mb/s
Random read seek time - / <12.0ms
Random write seek time - / <13.0ms
I/O data transfer rate - / 600MB/s
12V start max current - / 2.0A

Acoustics - Idle 2.5-2.6 / 2.1 Bel
Performance Seek 2.8-2.9 / 2.3 Bel

Temperature / Operating 0 -60 °C / 0 -60 °C
Temperature / Non-operating -40 ~ 70 °C / -

Seek (typical) 5.7W / -
Read/Write (typical) 6.3W / -
Idle (typical) 5.1 W / 4.5 W (average)
Operating (average) - / 5.8 W
Standby (typical) 1W / -
Sleep (typical) 1W / -

Weight (avg.) 650g / 622g (1.371 lb)


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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:48 am 
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casebuyer wrote:
(cannot afford another crash)

You need to rethink this. You can not prevent crashes.

I'd get the Samsung but the Seagate should be nice as well. WD sells inferior units under that name so you don't know what you're going to get if you buy that.
I'd ignore storagereview.com.
7200rpm is faster than 5400rpm, assuming the same platter density. But there are lots of things you can tweak and which make a bigger difference in many cases. The most obvious would be to get two cheaper drives.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:37 am 
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well seagate 5900 rpm 64 MB cache SATA III (tough it doesn't matter SATA III bandwidth speeds not reachable anyway) 5 USD cheaper,

specs in bel in storagereview tells seagate is quiter, yet spcreview says samsung is quiter

samsung 5400 rpm 32 MB cache SATA II uses less power but doesn't matter to the electrical bill

I trust samsung more, but seagate bought samsung hdd factory anyway


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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:24 am 
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One drive missing in your list is the just reviews and editor choice award Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 2TB 5940RPM Hard Drive, this drive and samsung f4 are the choices for cheap storage or the favorites among the people building storage servers. Personally i own 4 5k3000 and fairly happy with them, good performance for storage drive, and one of the last 512 drives (old format), the Samsung F4 and WD Caviar Green 20EARS are both 4k advance format, this is not important if you are using new OS like Win7, but my server still runs WHSv1 which is based on Server2003 that doesnt like advance format drives, there are work around with jumpers and prealigments, but to me its just better to go with standard old format drive, this is the main reason i chose the drive, i had such a good experience that im planning to upgrade my server with 8 more 5k3000. Now if you want the questiest, then go with WD green cavairs, i just dont trush WD anymore since i had lots of failures lately.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:42 am 
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Abula wrote:
One drive missing in your list is the just reviews and editor choice award Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 2TB 5940RPM Hard Drive, this drive and samsung f4 are the choices for cheap storage or the favorites among the people building storage servers. Personally i own 4 5k3000 and fairly happy with them, good performance for storage drive, and one of the last 512 drives (old format), the Samsung F4 and WD Caviar Green 20EARS are both 4k advance format, this is not important if you are using new OS like Win7, but my server still runs WHSv1 which is based on Server2003 that doesnt like advance format drives, there are work around with jumpers and prealigments, but to me its just better to go with standard old format drive, this is the main reason i chose the drive, i had such a good experience that im planning to upgrade my server with 8 more 5k3000. Now if you want the questiest, then go with WD green cavairs, i just dont trush WD anymore since i had lots of failures lately.

hitachi is not available at my retail store, seagate is 5 USD cheaper than samsung, I use XP currently, I will use mainly for storage I have older 7200 drive for OS already


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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:57 am 
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casebuyer wrote:
hitachi is not available at my retail store, seagate is 5 USD cheaper than samsung, I use XP currently, I will use mainly for storage I have older 7200 drive for OS already
Go with whatever you like or have available to you, but cross check about advance format and win xp, so you know what you will have to do once you get the hdd, since its not an OS drive i think its going to be easier since you can have a aligment program like gparted to do it, but its best for you to read on advance format on old OS like XP.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:33 pm 
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Abula wrote:
casebuyer wrote:
hitachi is not available at my retail store, seagate is 5 USD cheaper than samsung, I use XP currently, I will use mainly for storage I have older 7200 drive for OS already
Go with whatever you like or have available to you, but cross check about advance format and win xp, so you know what you will have to do once you get the hdd, since its not an OS drive i think its going to be easier since you can have a aligment program like gparted to do it, but its best for you to read on advance format on old OS like XP.


but does alignment necessary, or once I align with XP should i have to do anything with Win7


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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:12 pm 
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casebuyer wrote:
but does alignment necessary, or once I align with XP should i have to do anything with Win7
Windows 7 supports 4k advance format drives so for new users there is no issue, win7 will align it properly. Now win xp might not, I just google couple of sec, and found

Windows XP will Have Issues with Advanced Format HDD's
Western Digital’s Advanced Format: The 4K Sector Transition Begins
Exploring WD's Advanced Format HD Technology
Will it break Windows XP compatibility?

Google more, go into storage forums, read, and see if if this will be an issue for you and XP, there are other solutions, its not the end of the world, you can prealign the hdd with 3rd party software like gparted (i think dont take my word for it), WD and Samsung has their own software, some even have a jumper setup, personally i just avoided new advance format drives on my WHSv1, but on my laptop and desktop i don't care, so i go for whatever is best atm, even 4k advance format drives.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 TB 5k rpm, Samsung F4 HD204UI or Seagate ST2000DL003 G
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:45 am 
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I will ask the dealer then, thanks for your help

suppose this time i might buy seagate instead samsung


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