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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:38 am 
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See the 2nd pic - the original backplate is still there. I don't think you can actually remove it without seriously compromising the operation of the socket or integrity of the mobo. There's no need at all to remove it anyway - the Noctua backplate, and other backplates for aftermarket 1155/1156 coolers such as Thermalright etc., are specially shaped to fit over the stock backplate - see 1st pic.
Anyway, the whole operation is stupidly easy and you just can't screw up :)

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:45 pm 
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kater wrote:
See the 2nd pic - the original backplate is still there. I don't think you can actually remove it without seriously compromising the operation of the socket or integrity of the mobo. There's no need at all to remove it anyway - the Noctua backplate, and other backplates for aftermarket 1155/1156 coolers such as Thermalright etc., are specially shaped to fit over the stock backplate - see 1st pic.
Anyway, the whole operation is stupidly easy and you just can't screw up :)


thanks

Since I don't plan on upgrading my 775 to 1155 till Haswell at the earliest, if the Noctua backplate is no longer sold, what type of backplate do I need to locate and buy?

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I guess any backplate that has mounting holes for 1156/1155 coolers (75 mm square) and is recessed to accommodate the native 1156/1155 socket backplate will be OK. That would be e.g. Thermalright Bolt Through Kit 1156 rev. B or Scythe Universal Retention Kit 3.

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:10 am 
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kater wrote:
I guess any backplate that has mounting holes for 1156/1155 coolers (75 mm square) and is recessed to accommodate the native 1156/1155 socket backplate will be OK. That would be e.g. Thermalright Bolt Through Kit 1156 rev. B or Scythe Universal Retention Kit 3.

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Well Scythe technical support said

Cc: support@scythe-usa.com
Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 12:41 PM

Greetings from Scythe USA,

We don't have any updated mounting brackets for this cooler because it's a discontinued item.

Our newer models are all compatible with the 1155, including the Ninja 3 cpu cooler (latest Ninja series, redesigned for better cooling efficiency, and better mounting capability).

Have you ever thought of upgrading your cooler?

Best Regards,



Scythe USA, Inc



Rick Nakamura

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City Of Industry, CA 91746



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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:11 pm 
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dan wrote:
We don't have any updated mounting brackets for this cooler because it's a discontinued item.

Our newer models are all compatible with the 1155, including the Ninja 3 cpu cooler (latest Ninja series, redesigned for better cooling efficiency, and better mounting capability).

Have you ever thought of upgrading your cooler?

UPgrading??!! Jezz, talk about being in denial...

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Hi kater, I just stumbled across this and I was in the same boat very recently!

I ran an original Ninja passively on my e4300 (I actually got it as a review model for a site I used to review HSs for). Couldn't find anything to compare with the Ninja's wide fin spacing bar that crazy Thermalright monster, but I just couldn't see an easy solution to mount the Ninja on S1155. I also prefer Gigabyte mobos because of their aggressive fan control when paired with an already low RPM Nexus RS. I also wanted to keep to a very tight budget for my i5 upgrade.

In the end I got hold of a second hand Noctua NH-U12 and I've been pretty happy with it. I'd have preferred the Ninja, definitely, but the Noctua lets me run the HS passively with only a top case fan on the P180 controlled by the Gigabyte mobo which keeps it @500rpm-ish pretty much all of the time, which is all I ask. When I fire up StarCraft II I have a rear 120mm Nexus RS that I just switch on (0V-12V fan controller).

I still have my Ninja. Can't quite bring myself to part with it :wink: It's still my avatar on several other forums.

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Glad to see you got yours to work though, good effort! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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dan wrote:
Since I don't plan on upgrading my 775 to 1155 till Haswell at the earliest, if the Noctua backplate is no longer sold, what type of backplate do I need to locate and buy?


Buy it now in preperation? :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:30 pm 
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Jordan wrote:
dan wrote:
Since I don't plan on upgrading my 775 to 1155 till Haswell at the earliest, if the Noctua backplate is no longer sold, what type of backplate do I need to locate and buy?


Buy it now in preperation? :wink:

will haswell continue socket 1155 mounting hole coolers? :)

basically i plan to use my pc until it dies. even then if they still sell brand new 775 / ddr2 i might do that


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:19 pm 
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We now know that IB (tick) will fit 1155 sockets, but Haswell is Intel's tock architecture and may very well have a new socket. So it may or may not be compatible with older coolers. However, please mind that it's not only the mounting holes spacing that you should consider, but also the socket's backplate. Still, the Noctua thingy is only about USD 10, so you may just as well buy it if you're so sure about your Haswell upgrade and see if it fits. If not, you can always sell it on Ebay to some crazy geek looking to do the Ninja / 1155 trick ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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kater wrote:
We now know that IB (tick) will fit 1155 sockets, but Haswell is Intel's tock architecture and may very well have a new socket. So it may or may not be compatible with older coolers. However, please mind that it's not only the mounting holes spacing that you should consider, but also the socket's backplate. Still, the Noctua thingy is only about USD 10, so you may just as well buy it if you're so sure about your Haswell upgrade and see if it fits. If not, you can always sell it on Ebay to some crazy geek looking to do the Ninja / 1155 trick ;)


Hey Kater, in 2013 when Haswell comes out (and if my pc has died) you could come out with a new thread on how to mount the SCN-1000 on a haswell! :)

the c2duo 975x ddr2 memory does everything I need. larger than 2tb though would be nice :)


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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Hey Kater

would any 1155 motherboard work or do some 11155 motherboards have a backplate that would interfere with Noctua one?


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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All 1155 motherboards have standard sockets according to Intel specifications so yes, you can get any popular, regular ATX / mATX board and the Noctua backplate will fit.

But! Please be careful with 1155 ITX boards - due to very small size some of their components may be located on the underside of the board, close to where the socket's backplate is located, which could mean such parts will interfere with the backplate. I think I saw an example of such a problem here in the forums. Someone wanted to use a cooler with a backplate but couldn't, because of this little but protruding component.

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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kater wrote:
All 1155 motherboards have standard sockets according to Intel specifications so yes, you can get any popular, regular ATX / mATX board and the Noctua backplate will fit.

But! Please be careful with 1155 ITX boards - due to very small size some of their components may be located on the underside of the board, close to where the socket's backplate is located, which could mean such parts will interfere with the backplate. I think I saw an example of such a problem here in the forums. Someone wanted to use a cooler with a backplate but couldn't, because of this little but protruding component.


ok thanks. After my pc dies I'll return to this thread and hopefully reuse my scythe ninja.

In reality, since IB and Haswell promise lower power consumption, with 22nm and Trigate, Ninja should still be fine. :mrgreen:

Is it realistic that the Ninja must be rust-damaged in 3-5 years in future, or that the fluid in the pipe evaporate? (I've had it when it first came out)


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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Has anyone successfully used the Noctua NM-I3 kit to mount a Ninja Plus "Rev.B" 1100 to socket 1155?

My Core2 Duo/socket 775 board died 2 weeks ago so I upgraded to a i5-2500k/socket 1155 board and was hoping to reuse my Ninja, only to sadly discover that Scythe doesn't make an adapter kit for it. :cry: I'm trying to avoid buying another top of the line air cooler if possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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Ninjas have been sliding downhill for a really long time. Time to move on. I'd suggest a Megahalems, which is a bit costly, but is easy to mount and works as well as the original Ninja.

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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Hi, Sorry to revive old post, but this got me inspired to adapt my Scythe Shuriken from its intended 755 compatibility, to 1155 use! All it involved was a pair of pliers and a steady grasp. Turns out the ~4mm needed (to take the 755 pin brace to the 1155 pin holes) can be achieved just by bending the brace clamps a little. Pics may clarify things a little.


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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Just to confirm for anyone else who googles their way here, the Scythe Ninja Plus Rev. B works fine in the ASRock boards with dual 775/1155 mounting holes. I can't be the only one who's had it so long that they forgot it only has pushpins, not a backplate. :)


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Just to update - I got my Noctua NH-U12 and have never looked back.

Yes it would have been great to keep my Ninja Rev.A - I have always been fond of it and it will always hold a special place with me as the perfect heatsink for its time and something of an icon. If I could have ported it to my new system easily I would have, but now I'm running the Noctua and still run a completely passive system, except when I play StarCraft II and turn normally inactive Nexus up to 11 (1,000RPM).

Also, for me is was an early (and free!) review sample I received. As I worked for quite a high-profile hardware review site at the time when I reviewed it and all the praise I heaped on it and subsequently the amount I recommended it across various forums, I'd like to think I was responsible for one or two sales :)

I still have the Ninja in a drawer somewhere... because of that place it holds in my heart - as a reviewer, PC silencer and hardware enthusiast - I don't think I'll ever sell it.

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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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I have a Ninja sat beside me i'm looking to use with a new 1155 board(Gigabyte Z77 D3H) arriving later in the week.

I have a question for kater if he's still around, or if anyone else can answer just to clarify please that would also be great.

If i'm following katers directions correctly all i need from the Noctua Mounting Kit is the backplate, correct? Are the screws used in the directions from the motherboard or from the ninja? I'm not entirely sure on which screws kater used to fit the backing plate through the motherboard to the hacked/modded mounts.

Appreciate it if anyone could clear that up for me.

Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Ninja SNCJ-1000 for socket 1155 with Noctua backplate -
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We already PMd with t31os, but just to clarify here - I used the bolts that came with the Ninja, same as I would with the Ninja's backplate. My grandpa cooler is still fine, not going anywhere and will be probably cooling my next build, whenever that is.

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