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Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by CA_Steve » Tue May 01, 2012 6:23 am

>>$100 vs $25. Not really an answer. More of a different solution to a different problem/application space.

Seems more Dell Zino/Mac Mini than Raspberry Pi to me.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by nutball » Tue May 01, 2012 7:31 am

CA_Steve wrote:>>$100 vs $25. Not really an answer. More of a different solution to a different problem/application space.

Seems more Dell Zino/Mac Mini than Raspberry Pi to me.
Indeed. It looks quite interesting, particularly from an HTPC perspective. I'd be slightly worried about networking though, I see no mention of Ethernet.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by ces » Tue May 01, 2012 1:32 pm

nutball wrote: I see no mention of Ethernet.
That's what USB is for.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by nutball » Tue May 01, 2012 9:41 pm

ces wrote:
nutball wrote: I see no mention of Ethernet.
That's what USB is for.
No it isn't.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by CA_Steve » Wed May 02, 2012 6:06 am

If 10/100 is good enough, then you could use USB...

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by nutball » Wed May 02, 2012 6:58 am

Sure, it's possible. But USB isn't designed for networking, Ethernet is. In any non-trivial networked application you'll be running an Ethernet cable right up to this box - then going the last couple of inches with a dongle to plug it into a socket that's not really designed for networking. Which seems a little strange.

Given that Intel are touting this thing for kiosks and embedded signage, applications which have to Just Work and work reliably 24/7, it seems a bit bizarre to be relying on the wrong technology for networking.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by washu » Wed May 02, 2012 7:45 am

Given that almost all* USB to ethernet adapters make Realtek/VIA NICs look like speed demons, even 100 mbit is pushing it. Sure it might work, but your CPU load and latency will pay for it.

* Seriously, has anyone seen a USB NIC that doesn't have a shitty controller?

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by cbutters » Fri May 11, 2012 9:40 am

What they need to do is make sure it has gigabit ethernet.... and also they could implement PoE... (power over ethernet) that way you would only need network cable to power the device... that would make sense.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by edh » Fri May 11, 2012 2:29 pm

From experience of working with USB network adaptors through work (not my design decision!), they're unreliable. They don't break, it's just that the USB connection gets lost and when that happens it ends up getting reinstalled as a different network adaptor. Or nothing at all happens. Very patchy.

Don't see this as being Raspberry Pi territory at all but I can see why Intel would be worried by Raspberry Pi in the long term more than by any AMD chip: Imagine a generation brought up on ARM, not Intel compatible!

Someone could of course scale up the Raspberry Pi concept to something larger and more feasible for general use, that would compete more with what Intel is talkign about here.

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Re: Intel's Answer to Raspberry Pi

Post by NyteOwl » Thu May 17, 2012 11:36 am

edh wrote:Someone could of course scale up the Raspberry Pi concept to something larger and more feasible for general use, that would compete more with what Intel is talkign about here.
Something like this?

http://trimslice.com/web/

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