andyb wrote:
The man who wrote this is a self-confessed "Born Again Christian", would I believe anything that he preaches
And what would you think if he decided he'd never believe anything from an atheist?
Science Fail 1: Not listening to someone because they disagree with you.
andyb wrote:
I am a natural skeptic and I have seen/read/heard just about every argument there is that would be considered "pro-God" or "pro-religion"
So any such argument can be automatically disregarded?
Science Fail 2: Believing you have nothing more to learn.
andyb wrote:
I gave it a shot, it was soon apparent that it was a shocking case of TLDR ...
I think, perhaps, I've spent too much time with scientific journals recently, because I thought it was a bit vague. I suppose after one spends enough time reading such gems as "The homotetrameric form of Cin8p, a
Saccharomyces cerevisiae kinesin-5 motor, is essential for its
in vivo function," one's perspective changes a bit.
Science Fail 3: Sacrificing rigor for convenience.
andyb wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGwfHxLkYK4
I don't do unexplained video links. Reading's faster and I don't risk being the umpteen-millionth person to watch some stupid video that has inexplicably become a phenomenon. If you're not just being snarky, you'll have to tell me what the video's about before I'll watch it.
andyb wrote:
if you continue to add ifs and buts to try to "defend" the text in the bible as "not being slavery" in some way, shape or form you are falling into the classic trap of ignoring the nasty bits and listening to the good bits.
The only bits I've ignored are the Tabernacle-blueprinting chapters in Exodus. The rest, I've read, and contextualized using extra-biblical sources varied in both nature and bias. Evil Bible was one of them, though I found it essentially useless. It was difficult to find actual data in all that sneering.
andyb wrote:
If you want to cast the Christian Holy book in a good light then read the the "Jefferson Bible" where the great man removed anything that was either wrong or immoral
The Jefferson Bible only covers the Gospels, which overlap enough that Jefferson wouldn't have needed to remove much (if anything) to achieve that page length.
I don't know if you failed to read the ginormous subtitle in that PDF you linked, are so completely ignorant that you think the Gospels are the entirety of the New Testament, or are deliberately trying to mislead me, but I'm afraid your mislabeling it "the Christian Holy book" is the last straw. In addition to the issues I've mentioned above, in the course of this discussion you've waved away your errors, excluded data that disagreed with you, brusquely dismissed the foundations of scientific textual analysis, and demonstrated general disinterest in actually applying the scientific method yourself.
At this point, I can only conclude that you are interested only in passing judgment, not genuine debate, and that your mind is firmly welded shut. If I'm wrong, then we have experienced a major failure of communication. Either way, further discussion between us will accomplish nothing but increase our post count.
EDIT: It appears I forgot to apologize for forgetting to say that my source was Christian. I was aware of his potential bias and mistakenly thought I'd explicitly stated it. My bad.
