finally managed to post this message after 3 days of fatal error messages
Good to see you finally was able to post, weird that memory error. But once you understand it its very easy to aviod it or to correct it. Believe i spent hours trying to figure out one post only.
The r4 does offer a lot more opportunities. I still think Id like a v gene in there though because it has everything I need and some nice extras for a fair price. That said Im still considering an atx board but Im not sure what my options are for a similar board (maybe the asus p8z77 or gigabyte sniper 3?)
The Gene V is an excelent mobo, i almost updated from gene Z IV, but didnt really needed... but has some stuff that i want, hopping there is a Haswell GENE VI soon =). On the mobo depends on what you want, i feel the GENE V offers so much for $190, but at the same time its design is for a micro atx case, and the sli setup will end up very close, while most of the semi high end (not the maximus extreme) have triple spacing between 16x slots (one will be 8x though), so imo in a full ATX case i would only go with GENE V for a none sli setup, but since you have some thoughts into going that way.... i would probably go with the P8Z77, i would remain on asus for the fanXpert2 (be sure to check that its with 2 version and not the 1), has so much tweaking for the fans.... that makes it worth the extra $$$, at least for me. This is the cheapest Asus Z77 with FanXpert2, ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Ive read that the v formula will fit in an r4 (does this mean the board-case mounts line up?) but its an expensive board, any other suggestions?
If you go extended mobo, im not sure it will fit on the R4, i think the Fractal Design Define XL R2
is meant for that. But thats another at least $90 over the Gene Z / P8Z77-V...., if its worth it... its up to you.
2x 8GB Corsair LP or Ballistixs (does it need to be low profile with a hr02?)
Thermalright Macho HR02
Well its not needed, standard height should be fine also, even tall memory should do fine as long as you dont populate slot 4. I just did a build for friend with the macho, and the way new mounting bracket is design, allows the TY140 to be droped down even lower then what it was with the none macho version (the screw in the middle was a thumb screw, now its almost flat), so the fan will be able to drop almost to the lvl of the memory, on the PS07 build the slots for populating first werent even close to the fan on the macho, but the last slot is debatable, watching from the top it might fit but might end up touching... but this for you might not be important, for eample the TY140 is asimetrical, has one side larger than the other, and in micro atx mobo the HR02 is so close to the gpu that you will not be able to fit it the large way to the sides, so it has to go with shorter sides here so it stays flush with the HR02 and not touch the gpu, this means the fan taller size ends up toward the door of case, so its important to able to drop it down as low as possible to the side pannel closes, again not that important to you if you have 1x pcie slot between the cpu n gpu to be able to place the fan as you please, but for my friends build the crucial balistic was pretty good, specially if he upgrades short term to 16gb and populates the 4th slot. I will probably build also with low profile for haswell, i see no reason why to have standard tall memory or tall heatsinks, Samsung 30nm was also one of the more popular memory lately, also low profile style, i didnt get this as it sold out everywhere and was very expensive to import it from japan, SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US
, but the crucial low profile did fine. Up to you, and whatever memory you trust.
4x Nexus Real Silent case fans
The R4 uses 140mm fans, the 120mm Nexus Basic have been the standard for SPCR for a long time, but not sure about the 140mm. I would first test the included fans, as i seen good comments of it, if you want to go aftermarket, this is what i would consider,Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-1 140mm x 25mm Ultra Quiet Fan - 700 RPM - 9 dBA
- Atm my favorite 140mm fan, worth mentioning has like deadzone for undervotling from 6-12v stays around 700rpm, below 6v goes down to 400-500. The bigger brother, Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-2 140mm x 25mm Ultra Quiet Fan - 1200 RPM - 20 dBA
has much wider range for undervolting, doesnt suffer of a deadzone like the pk1, but defently noticeble at 1200rpm, so you will need either to use the 5/7/12V fan controller of the R4 or Asus FanXpert2 from the mobo (this is what i would recommend as you can do ramp it dynamically).
Another option are Noctua 140mm Premium Quiet Quality Case Cooling Fan NF-A14 ULN
or Noctua 140mm Premium Quiet Quality Case Cooling Fan NF-A14 FLX
thanks again for your help. Im still a few weeks away from buying so please share any more suggestions regarding any parts
Btw atm on newegg they have the Fractal Design Define R4 at $110 + $30 off w/ promo code EMCXSVP52
, ends 5/2, so at $80 seems like a really good price for the case, i couldn't hold my self and ordered one. My suggestion is to decide on the case ASAP, as the offer will expire thrusday, imo worth taking even if you order later the rest of the components, but dont rush it either, think if thats what you want or not.