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 Post subject: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:58 am 
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No longer just a bad rumor. What a shame.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:25 am 
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If it is a bad news depends on one thing - how low will the price of true OLED displays drop next year. I will not cry after plasma if that means bigger push for OLED to be in acceptable price range (55-60" for <=€1500).


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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:27 am 
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Considering 55" OLEDs are currently selling for $9-10K (Amazon)...I think it'll be a few years before they are reasonably priced. Plus, they still need to resolve the limited lifetime of the organic material....good enough for a cell phone that's self-obsoletes in 2 years...not so good for a TV you want to keep around for 10 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:05 am 
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Yea when I read this it saddened me. I got a Panasonic 60vt10 that I was still happy with but I'm going to get a 65st60 with my christmas bonus money and keep it brand new sealed till the v10 dies. It's already 5 years old so who knows when it could go. Just like the brand new sealed pioneer's sky rocketed in price years down the road I think the panasonic will increase in price too for the true videophiles that want a nice set. So either way it's a good investment I think. This way I'll be covered as long as I need to be until a 65 inch oled is affordable.


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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:49 am 
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..and keep it brand new sealed till the v10 dies.


That's rolling dice. It might be dead on arrival. Or, it might suffer from infant mortality. But, by then it would be out of the warranty period.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:10 am 
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true, should probably test it out first. Could still sell it as brand new you can check the panel usage hours in the service menu to prove it's new. Might just sell the v10 and start using the 65 incher anyways. I kinda want to step up the size anyways. I didn't really want to buy a tv now but panasonic is forcing me to. Who knows how many years it will be till oled is in the 2500 price range for 65 inch


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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:22 pm 
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Mentally they gave up on plasmas long ago. When they tried to make them more green (lower power consumption) their defaults settings made for a dim picture. I can't spot the plasmas at BB right away, really dim in comparison. If the sales people had any brains they would have put them in Cinema Mode, at least the sets would have a fighting chance, but in a place as bright as BB they are the first sets to be ruled out. You can blame the government if you want, but marketing failed here.

Another problem was cracked screens, the ones that cracked from the inside-out. Not the consumer's fault, but not covered under warranty. Piss on you customer!

Circuit boards designed as minimalistically as possible (every hear of potting buzzing coils & transformers?) and made by the lowest bidder run in too hot environments leading to marginal product life didn't help matters much either.

If I ever did buy a set like a 50 inch ST60 I would find one with a busted screen and buy it too, so that I can get all the damn circut boards that are not only grossly overpriced for what few parts they actually have, but they take forever to get them from the factory. And if support sucked while the TV was being made imagine what will happen when production stops.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:45 pm 
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Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:17 pm 
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Well the total lack of support of all electrical appliances scares the bejeezus out of me.

On the other hand you can find 34 inch 16*9 Sony XBRs on Craigslist for $200, sometimes for free, if you're willing to pick it up and deal with the 300 pound weight. If I could find one of the last ones with the extra fine dot pitch I would consider it.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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I turned my back on all Sony products 10 years ago after a warranty fiasco. So, we all love to hate some consumer product companies.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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Botched support is being replaced with zero support across the board.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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Costco isn't offering any plasmas this year. As their employees tell, they only sells products that actually sell.

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Panny TC-P50ST60 was a grand about 6 months ago, still a grand.

Black Friday sales my a$$.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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This was an interesting development of the Holiday. The Samsung PN51F5300, a 51 inch 1080P plasma wth no frills, dropped 20% in price to $529. The 42 and 43 inch 720P plasmas didn't budge and don't expect them to either.

Given plasmas rather limited life expectency this may hold some of us over until OLED becomes viable. Speaking of which are the OLED sets all 4K? What about having some in the current HD resolution?

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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Given plasmas rather limited life expectency this may hold some of us over until OLED becomes viable.

Heh.

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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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aristide1 wrote:
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Given plasmas rather limited life expectency this may hold some of us over until OLED becomes viable.
...

My Pioneer PDP-V402(manufactured: October 1999) after 24,000 hours of usage has a different opinion...


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 Post subject: Re: Panasonic stopping all Plasma TV production
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I would expect your plasma to be built far better than anything made today.

My mistake, I meant to say your plasma is built better than everything made today.

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OMG, there's 1 Panny 50 inch ST60 left at the local Sears. I wonder if I can get them to give it away?

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