Hi everybody... This is going to be my 1st PC.
Welcome to SPCR.
The parts i'm still in doubts and need help deciding are ::
1) PC Case :: I could afford Corsair 330R ($132), and Corsair Obsidian 550D ($203)
Technically my budget could only afford a Corsair 330R price range, if i buy an Obsidian 550D, then the $70 difference would cut my Speaker budget from $150 to $80.
However, i view a PC Case and a PSU as an investment, when i change my system in the future, i wouldn't change my PSU nor my Case.
I can't see and touch the goods in person here in South East Asia, that's why i desperately need opinions about it.
I prefer Fractal Design, like Define R4, etc. But this is matter of preference, Corsair do manufacture really well design cases, the 330R is good choice, specially on a budget, and i personally like to invest as much as i can on speakers.
2) PSU :: i could afford either Seasonic G650 ($147) or Seasonic X560 ($172).
a) With a stock core i5 and an R9 270X... can a 560 Watt powered the rig?
b) I've read reviews and i'm aware that Seasonic X series has its fan turned off until certain percentage and its use a Sanyo fan.. but considering the watt consumed by the rig, the rig would consumed more percentage of a X560 watt PSU than a G650 watt PSU. So my question would be, which one would be more quiet between the two? is it the G650 or the X560?
c) Also, regarding coil whine, does an X series PSU are more prone to get coil whine out of the box compared to a G series PSU?
a) If you can wait for the cutom coolers, the MSI Gaming R9 270X should be a good choice for little more money. and yes a 560W should be more than enough for it, you probably wont even reach 400W on load.
b) X series would be quieter, its semi passive, so browsing the internat that you do the most, it should be passive, and when you game it will start but still very low rpms, my X660 is extremly quiet, i have to check if its spinning even under load.
c) The more comments i seen on coil are on the platinum, the X560 is gold, in the past we did see some comments on all X series, but not so much. That said any PSU can have coil whine or be defective or could be a combination of hardware, but i would go with the X560 if you can.
ps::you could also recommend a Corsair RM 650W and a super flower golden King 550W though im leaning towards Seasonic.
the above are my only PSU choices, goods are limited here, so no Antec, no XFX, and no Rosewill.
Cosair RM series is a new PSU, its been getting good user reviews, so this would a good bet also, i would go with 450/550 and save more money. Superflower golden 550W is also a good choice but should be more expensive, then again might not be in your area, SPCR review gave it the editors choice and to me would be my no1 choice looking for 550W platinum atm (there is also a gold version from what i remember). Now thinking you are on budget, if the corsair RM550 is cheaper than all, i would go that route, because it will leave you more money toward other components.
Processors : i5-4570 ($243)
motherboard : MSI H87-G43 gaming ($158)
HDD : Seagate Barracuda 2tb ($102)
GPU : MSI R9 270x $295
RAM : Corsair vengeance pro 2x4 gb ($120)
CPU Cooler : Noctua NH-U12S ($80)
All solid choices but i would try to swap the barracuda for a WD 2tb, and i would try as much as possible to get an SSD, this would dramatically reduce the noise of the hdd usage, really worth it imo, even if it means saving in other slots. Corsair memory is fine but get one with standard height, heatsinks today are more marketing than a need, so lower height will help you not be restricted on the CPU cooler, check if you can get low profile or standard height. CPU cooler, Noctua is a fine choice, but expensive, this is another place you could save some toward the ssd, check if you can get Scythe Mugen 4, superb cooler for the money.
1) Motherboard Question : Does a Z87 board last longer than it's H87 counterpart in general?
Say my board pick MSI h87-G43 gaming ($158) has a Z87 counterpart (Z87-G45 Gaming $232). Does a Z87 board in general use better / more reliable components than its H87 counterpart?
Last in terms of durability... i doubt it, although usually it comes with bigger heatsinks and better caps, but since you are not overclocking, there shouldn't be extra heat generating, on an standard scenario they should both last more than they will be useful. I would go with the H if you are not planning on overclocking, if you are then go with the Z.
2) Processor question : if i want to use the rig for 4-5 years... will getting a K processors and pay a premium now makes me able to squeeze a little more juice out of my PC down the road....? Say, i'll OC 10% in Year 3 to make it last longer for example. or will OC and heat killed processors faster? does technology has catch up to the point that safe minimal OC will squeeze me more performance but still as reliable as stock? I don't think i'll do high or extreme OC.
The price difference is a concern though, getting a Z87-G45 gaming and an i5-4670K will cost me in total $520 VS my current build i5-4570 + H87-G43 gaming ($400)
Does the $120 premium of getting Z board paid off in 3-4 years in terms of OC-ing in years 3 to 4 to squeeze it?
First let me say i would invest those extra $120 on an SSD, that said, yes overclocking will net you more performace at the expense of higher temperature, more consumption and to some point the degradation of hardware (this is very subjective as will depend on a lot of things). Now future proofing in PC is very hard, but with intel not having much preassure from AMD, they are milking us with very small upgrades on CPUs, the gains from 3 years to today are around 10%, the next two generations Broadwell will be like 5%, and skylake if nothing changes wont have but quads, so another 5%... the next gen (dont remember the name) will only be a architecture reduction so another 5%, so in essence expect 15% faster cpus in 3 years for the low-mid end platform. Probably somewhere we might see six cores, but dont seem that clear into when intel is planning on introducing them to their consumer line.
But we are going into a lot of changes in the next 2 years, DDR4 is the first that should come in Haswell E, and then adopted on Skylake, PCIe 4.0 might make it to Haswell E or might not and come in Skylake, not that its needed.... current gpus cant saturate even a PCIe 8x 3.0, but we are also moving into Sata Express, that from what i have read wont make it to Haswell E but skylake seems to be where intel might introduce it, but who knows for sure, this are just rumors. So overall a PC in 3 years should have faster SSDs on sata Express, faster GPUs on PCIe 4.0, and faster and lower voltage memory on DDR4. Probably will be worth for you to check in 3 years into how everything is settling down, but your build should be very decent still if intel doesnt change their minimal gains CPUs, so its a good bet to buy now.