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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:16 pm 
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Good stuff Abula! Will get a WD Red then :)
Try also to see if they have greens, maybe old stock in norway =)


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I meant to ask something else as well. What do you guys do for Wifi? The motherboard doesn't have wifi. I'll probably run some cables, but I thought it would be nice to have the wifi option as well.
Well this was something that should have been considered before buying the motherboard, there are options from all manufacturers with WIFI. Also its best to always have the PC conected via RJ45 to a wired network, faster, safer etc.

Now your options are add on cards, something cheap as long as you dont care about transfer speed would be something like TP-Link N150 Wireless PCI-Express Adapter (TL-WN781ND) or if you wifi is AC then looking into Rosewill RNX-AC1900PCE, there are other options out there evne PCIe adapters so you can fit an Intel WIFI if you wish, but its up to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:48 pm 
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If you can run CAT5/etc, do it. All of my PCs are wired. One less thing to worry about. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:58 pm 
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Well this was something that should have been considered before buying the motherboard, there are options from all manufacturers with WIFI. Also its best to always have the PC conected via RJ45 to a wired network, faster, safer etc.

I didn't buy the motherboard yet, so I could change the build on this point. But I did consider this. From what I remember looking at it, wifi added quite a bit of cost to the motherboard. My experience has been that wifi gets old before the motherboard. I really don't think wifi on the motherboard is the way to go. IF I at some point needed excellent wifi, I'd like to have a solution that lets me move an antenna around. And I was thinking it would altogether be easier just to get a separate card that I could replace down the road when a new standard shows up.

That said. Y'all are probably right about using a cable instead. I bought all the equipment last year for cabling but never got around to it.

Seems like I need to get my drill out :)


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:04 pm 
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Try also to see if they have greens, maybe old stock in norway =)


Looks like Newegg has green.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6822236798

Cheap too. The 5TB looks tempting.


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:10 pm 
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Hi, just checking in on whether you finished your build and if you're happy with it. Quiet enough? Considering a similarly-focused build and wondering if you'd do anything differently. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:04 am 
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Not yet. Still waiting for the CPU and the motherboard. I've got all the other parts - and the flue.

I'll update this post when I start the build.


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:16 pm 
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So I've finally started the build! Been kind of busy here so have not had much time.

Turns out that the Thermalright fans did not come with screws. I had to order some that I am waiting for. (Just a heads up to others who might order the same fans).

A small update on the CPU. I could never get the i5 8400 here in Norway. Always on backorder. I got tired of waiting and ended up getting the i5 8600K from the US instead. Price worked out to be about the same, so I figured that would still be OK. Hopefully, it is.

I have a question though. Do I need a Case Fan Y Cable? My wife and I have a debate on whether or not we can use the CPU optional input to control the last case fan. (The motherboard is the Asus Prime Z370-A

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-Z370-A/

I thought I would upload a picture of two of the build, but I can't seem to get the picture to show. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Foggy wrote:
I have a question though. Do I need a Case Fan Y Cable? My wife and I have a debate on whether or not we can use the CPU optional input to control the last case fan.
Using the Asus CPU_OPT PWM header to synch exhaust fan(s) with the CPU cooler fan is standard practice among my gaming family members. The CPU_OPT header is like a Y cable in that it runs the PWM fan connected to it at the same PWM duty cycle as the CPU fan. However, unlike a Y cable you do get an independent RPM reading for a fan attached to CPU_OPT. I have also seen CPU_OPT used with a Y cable to sync a couple of fans to the CPU fan.


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:22 pm 
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Foggy wrote:
I have a question though. Do I need a Case Fan Y Cable? My wife and I have a debate on whether or not we can use the CPU optional input to control the last case fan.
Using the Asus CPU_OPT PWM header to synch exhaust fan(s) with the CPU cooler fan is standard practice among my gaming family members. The CPU_OPT header is like a Y cable in that it runs the PWM fan connected to it at the same PWM duty cycle as the CPU fan. However, unlike a Y cable you do get an independent RPM reading for a fan attached to CPU_OPT. I have also seen CPU_OPT used with a Y cable to sync a couple of fans to the CPU fan.


It looks like a smart way. My only concern is that the CPU fan generally is not from the same model of the exhaust fan.


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:09 am 
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It is not. The case fan that came with the Fractal Design C. The CPU cooler is the one that came on the Scyth Mugen.

What is the significance of the fans not being the same? If this is a problem, it seems I can either buy a Case Fan Y Cable OR I can just get another fan like the one on the Scyth Mugen.


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:57 am 
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Foggy wrote:
...OR I can just get another fan like the one on the Scyth Mugen.
The CPU_OPT header or a Y cable won't work as might be expected with the 3-pin voltage fan supplied with the Fractal C case. (It will just run at full speed all the time) So as you suggest the best option could be another Scythe Kaze Flex 120mm PWM like the one supplied with the CPU cooler. It has a nominal speed range of 300 to 1200 rpm so it should be possible, using the Asus BIOS fan control and/or the Asus Fan Xpert software, to achieve minimal idle speeds, probably low enough to be effectively silent.


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:49 am 
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Seems there are two versions of the fan.

http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/fa ... 0-pwm.html

Quiet version 300rpm - 800rpm
Regular version 300rpm - 1200rpm

Just get the regular version to match the CPU fan?


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 Post subject: Re: Considering a new build. Suggestions are most welcome.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:26 am 
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Yes, the regular 1200 rpm one would be a better choice as a direct match for the CPU fan.


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