dasman wrote:
xg2004 wrote:
At last you've finally admitted it. Nobody has a silent PC. Except me.
No, you don't. You have a silent workspace, not a silent PC. And that's assuming nothing else in the room makes noise...
Obviously.
And nothing else in my room makes a noise. I have no furnace. The bathroom fan only comes on when I turn it on, which is when I'm in the bathroom (strangely enough), there is no clock. So, even in the room without the PC, it IS silent. How strange that you somehow
wanted it to NOT be silent...
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I hear the furnace kick on, the bathroom fan, my wall clock ticking, etc. So, even in the room without the PC, it's not silent. Silent is in the name of the site, but everything is relative.
No, it's silent in my bedroom.
And it only cost me £40.
Before this it was fairly quiet, but I could always hear my wretched computer.
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xg2004 wrote:
My PC display looks exactly the same as it did before I moved it. I used the cheapest VGA extension cables I could buy, and have 4.5m of them, plus my monitor cable itself. The picture is exactly the same. My monitor is a 19" at 1280 x 1024.
I tried that route initially, my monitor ghosted the image terribly running at 1024x768 - this was with a 10' long extension on a $15-20 cable. YMMV with extension cables.
Well, maybe there was something wrong with your graphics card or monitor.
I use a Radeon 9700 Pro (and have had a Ti4200, Radeon 9600, and GeforceFX5600 also running on this 4.5m of cable) and an Ebuyer no-name 19" monitor, and the picture was ALWAYS perfect. I use my computer for hours and hours at a time, and I'd soon notice any problems.
So you had a problem with your setup that was not my experience. I believe I could easily add another 2-3m at least without any degradation. If I ever come across some cheap cables, I'll put them in the link just to find out.
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Edward is correct when it comes to image quality degradation. ATI and Nvidia on 19" monitors is a comsumer level product -- I think Edward is looking at a professional level solution. Matrox makes the best displaying cards (that I have seen) and LaCie makes the best displaying monitors (that I have seen). Nobody would purchase these to surf the web or play games.
And? Sorry - what's your point? My monitor's display is perfect. ATI is a consumer level product - so what? Does that mean the display is no good? Not that I've noticed!
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People that take image quality seriously wouldn't even consider an LCD (well, maybe the Apple Cinema series) due to color fidelity -- LCD's just don't have it yet.
And? When did I ever mention LCDs? Talk about strawmen arguments...
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KVM switches are usually used for controlling more than one computer with a single monitor/keyboard/mouse and not for image quality.
Obviously they're not used FOR image quality, they're used for extending the distance between you and your PC.
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I usually see them used in server rooms (like the one at our office). I've noticed that they're starting to pop up at Best Buy and Circuit City, but I'm not sure how many consumers really have a need (but I'm sure the market research was done, so I'm probably wrong on that

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All that said, I have used your "move the box" solution for my server -- it's now in the basement where I don't care how loud it is. Has (4) HD's, 5 fans (a bunch of Sunon's

) -- accessed via hard wired giga net.
Finally, FWIW, I don't consider drilling holes in the wall, floor, etc easier or less expensive than building a quiet computer.
Whether you consider it to be less expensive or not is irrelevant - it IS less expensive! Does it cost me £300 to drill a hole in the wall? Even if it's 10 inches of brick? No. It costs about £15 for a drill bit. Presuming you don't have one to begin with.
It does NOT cost £300, so how can it NOT be less expensive (by a long way) than building a quiet (I notice you didn't say silent) computer?
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I can build a quiet computer for just about the same price as a loud one -- the only extra expense would be ditching the retail HSF for a quieter model.
I notice you didn't say 'silent'.
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Now, trying to quiet an existing computer is a different story, since you've already spent the $$ once and are now considering replacing parts. But then, I got to use the loud parts to make the server
Dave
No, I'm talking about my NEXT purchase. My NEXT graphics card, hard drive, etc.etc. Every time I have to consider how much noise they make. Or at least, I used to.
You guys really have a problem with this: you're so obsessed with making your PC silent that you can't even see that it's far easier and cheaper to just quieten the PC down as easily as possible (i.e. quiet CPU heatsink, quiet PSU, quiet hard drives) and then MOVE it.