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Tibors Patron of SPCR
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 2665 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: The Nexus 120mm fan corner cutting guide... |
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All images are clickable for larger versions.
The problem
Some case fans like the Nexus 120mm Real Silent case fan have "closed" corners. Most case fans have two flanges with a hole on each corner. With the "closed" corner fans each hole is connected by a tube to the corresponding hole on the opposite flange. I don't know if you can still understand me, so maybe some pictures will make it more clear.
The orange fan has "closed" corners. The black fan has the more standard corners.
These tubes sit in the way if you want to use vibration dampening rubber fan mounts. Also when mounting such fans on a Thermalright XP-120, the tubes get in the way of the mounting clips. Well, if the tubes are unwanted, they have to go.
The Dremel Solution
I put an already used brown cutting disk in my Dremel. Use the thickest cutting disk you have. Don't forget to put your goggles on. Little pieces of orange plastic will be flying everywhere. My Dremel has a variable speed from 10.000RPM to 33.000RPM. I set the speed switch to the second "click". You shouldn't use too high speeds, 'cause then the plastic will melt.
First cut two groves through the tube parallel and flush with the flanges. Then cut the rest of the tube into "fingers" that are a little wider than the thickness of the cutting disk. Next cut right through the middle of each "finger". The last bits of plastic are removed by gently tilting the cutting disk a little. (N.B. Never tilt the cutting disk when working with harder materials! The disk could splinter and parts of it could lodge themself into vital parts of your anatomy.)
Use your fingers to remove all (almost) loose pieces of plasic. Then smooth out the surface of the remaining plastic ridge by running the cutting disk over it.
The result:
The Hand Tool Solution
First use a hacksaw to saw two groves through the tube parallel and flush with the flanges.
Then take some pliers. Use them to squeeze hard on the tube. It will break into pieces.
Lastly use a small file to smooth out the edges.
Conclusion
Using hand tools, it takes me less than half the time to open a corner, compared to using a rotary tool. Not to mention that with the Dremel you end up with pieces of orange plastic in your hair and all over the room.
If anybody has other ideas (Blow torch? Chainsaw?) how to open the corners, feel free to add them.
Don't take the text in this post to serious. I was bored this afternoon. But now we have pretty pictures to point too, when people ask about the "closed" corner problem.
Edit: Added 120mm to the title, as I saw several people on the forum think other sizes had closed corners too. _________________ 2) P4R800-VM | P4 2.8C | XP-120 + Nexus 120 | FSP300-60GLS + external Nexus 80 | 7200.7 PATA 40GB
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Pgh
Joined: 24 May 2003 Posts: 176
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Tibors - I never would of thought of the "crush and file" method.
Sort of reminds me of the PTF-PTM method - Pound to fit, paint to match. |
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nick705
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1154 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I've wanted to do this for a number of different reasons, but I've always been a bit worried it might somehow affect the noise characteristics... maybe detract from the rigidity of the frame, or perhaps even the gripping/cutting might bend something very slightly out of shape, cause slight damage to the bearing etc...
I'm know I'm probably being a paranoid old woman (and the fans aren't exactly expensive) but can you confirm there are no adverse effects? |
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sthayashi *Lifetime Patron*
Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 3208 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Very Nice , I like it. One minor suggestion I would have is to list the name/model number of the specific cutting tool that you used with the Dremel. It may be helpful for others in the future when they try and figure out which cutting disk to use. _________________ My Power Rig, Storage Rig, HTPC and Main Rig |
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bomba
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 320 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: |
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I've used my (woodworker's) table saw to open the closed corners on globe 120's. I venture to say it's the fastest & most dangerous method, no filing required, just watch those fingers! _________________ Luddite w/ old-skool P4 desktop rigs, incl. custom home server w/ 8 fanless/trayless hot-swap SATA bays in a mid-tower case w/ single 120mm fan. |
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Tibors Patron of SPCR
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 2665 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| sthayashi wrote: | | One minor suggestion I would have is to list the name/model number of the specific cutting tool that you used with the Dremel. |
I think the accessory I used is #540 1-1/4" Cut-Off Wheel screwed on a #402 Mandrel. I'm not sure about the disk, as it was one out of a box with assorted accessories. The #540 is the only one on the website with exact the same color, but in my box of pieces, I have disks of different thickness that are identical otherwise  _________________ 2) P4R800-VM | P4 2.8C | XP-120 + Nexus 120 | FSP300-60GLS + external Nexus 80 | 7200.7 PATA 40GB
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luminous Patron of SPCR
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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A nice thread here. Thanks for the info, I've been thinking about ways to cut my shoulders out. The plier squashing technique sounds sufficiently destructive to be fun  _________________ Acousti case | modded Chieftec 420W |120mm Nexus @850rpm| Asus A7N8X-Deluxe Rev 2 | AMD Athlon 2500+ Barton | Thermalright SLK 947 U | 92mm CPU AcoustiFan | Gigabyte 6800 (passive) | 160Gb PATA Nidec Samsungs in enclosure & 300Gb DM10 |
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Edward Ng SPCR Reviewer
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Tibors Patron of SPCR
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 2665 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands, Europe
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| nick705 wrote: | I've wanted to do this for a number of different reasons, but I've always been a bit worried it might somehow affect the noise characteristics... maybe detract from the rigidity of the frame, or perhaps even the gripping/cutting might bend something very slightly out of shape, cause slight damage to the bearing etc...
I'm know I'm probably being a paranoid old woman (and the fans aren't exactly expensive) but can you confirm there are no adverse effects? |
The rigidity of the frame hasn't changed. Look at the pictures above and compare the corner of the black fan to a cut corner of the orange fan. You'll see that the remaining ridge in the orange fan is still bigger than the small ridge on the black fan. I didn't expect other adverse effects either. Just make sure you handle the fan by the frame and don't use the hub to grip the fan.
But last night (01:00 AM) I tested if really nothing bad had happenend. I took my Morex Cubid 2677R case to the walk-in closet in my bedroom; removed the alarm clock from the bedroom; closed the airvent in the bedroom window; put the PSU brick under a stack of laundry; plugged the fans into the fanheaders on the VIA Epia 5000 motherboard and testing.......
I couldn't hear any difference between the Nexus fan I molested for the pictures above and an unmodified one.
| Edward Ng wrote: | | Now a sticky. | Wow, I'm honored. _________________ 2) P4R800-VM | P4 2.8C | XP-120 + Nexus 120 | FSP300-60GLS + external Nexus 80 | 7200.7 PATA 40GB
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greeef
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 354
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I cut mine out with a jewelers coping saw, just cut all the way round.
griff |
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vbmech
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Just another stupid method... but I used my tin snips and gouged out the corner bits then filed them down. Probably just as quick as a hacksaw but a bit messier. |
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hugekebab
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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im clearly going to be flamed to hell and beyond, but why are you cutting the tuybes, is it to allow suspension or a different type of grommet insertion?
thx |
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Ralf Hutter SPCR Reviewer
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 8498 Location: Sunny SoCal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| hugekebab wrote: | im clearly going to be flamed to hell and beyond, but why are you cutting the tuybes, is it to allow suspension or a different type of grommet insertion?
thx |
Consider yourself flamed.
It's to allow EAR-style grommet mounting, or to allow the newer Thermalright heatsink clips to clip into place. _________________ System 1: P4 2.4C, Intel 875PBZ, Scythe Ninja + 5V Nexus. 2 x 512MB Mushkin PC3200 Level II RAM, SP1614C, SLK3700BQE.
System 2: P4 3.4GHz NW, Intel 875PBZ, Si-120 + 6V 120mm Nexus, 2048MB Mushkin HP3200, Samsung SP1614C, P150.
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hugekebab
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| k cheers m8. |
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zenith
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 43 Location: norway
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I do have some problems with loading large versions of the images. Even loading the small ones takes really long time. |
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Tibors Patron of SPCR
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Some servers at ImageShack are terribly slow tonight. When that happens, it is usually better in a few hours or tomorrow. _________________ 2) P4R800-VM | P4 2.8C | XP-120 + Nexus 120 | FSP300-60GLS + external Nexus 80 | 7200.7 PATA 40GB
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york
Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 91 Location: Florida, US
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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I decided to try this method even though I do not own a xp 120 yet
It was also an excuse to use the dremel. Like Tibors 1st post I used a cutting disk to flush out the tube with the end of the fans frame, but instead of cutting fingers in the tube frame I used a drum sander bit to cut the tube out. Also my computer seems to be running much quieter now then again it could be the fact I have not yet taken out my earplugs.
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Gorganzola
Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I used my Dremel with the #225 Flex-Shaft Attachment and the cutting wheel to make the cuts at the ends. Then I used a #9901 Tungsten Carbide Cutter to clean out everything in between. It did a nice job and was easy to use, especially with the flexshaft. |
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WIL
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for this guide, it has helped me tremendously!
I'm not a DIY person so this was the first time I picked up a saw since school, and I probably won't be using a saw ever again which is a relief. Oh the horror! _________________ Antec Sonata ++ Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu ++ Athlon64 3400 ++ Asus K8V-SE Deluxe ++ 512Mb DDR266 ++ Seagate 7200.7 SATA 200Gb ++ Matrox Millenium G550 ++ Seasonic S12 SS-401HT ++ Vantec Nexus NXP-305-BK fan controller ++ Nexus Real Silent 120mm Fan = Total bliss! |
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niels007
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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LOL WIL! Great that you had the guts to mod that fan! I am a diy person but still was a bit scared going at my Nexus fan with a hacksaw, and huge pliers.. Worked a treat though, thanks for the clear guide mr T!  |
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Michael Sandstrom
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| For those who own utility knives the frame of the Nexus 120mm is so soft that cutting out the corners is dead simple with even the most basic of tools. |
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Aracu
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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From chopping away at a Nexus fan with some tin snips, I found out half accidently, that if you cut out completely one side of the outer fan rim so that the fan blade is uncovered on that side, the fan still works, and a huge
breeze can be directed at hard to get to spots on the motherboard
by mounting that side strategically. I pointed it so the cut off side of the fan is cooling the ram, the chipset, and helping to cool the cpu, while the main part of the fan is blowing directly on the video card. |
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LH
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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When using the saw-and-crush technique, you really only need to crush the tubes on the two "thick" corners. For the two "thin" corners, you can just grip the tube firmly and then bend it down, using a motion similar to snapping a twig. This will snap off the tube cleanly and leave clearance all around the fan hole. Just make sure the cuts at the ends of the tube go all the way through the tube before trying to snap off the tube.
For the two "thick" corners (that have no visible tube), I made a cut through the middle of the tube, parallel to the two cuts at the ends of the tube. This makes it easier to crush, since more pressure could be applied on a smaller portion of the tube. You'll have to crush twice, but you won't need the strength of He-Man. This really helps, especially when you have to crush the corners for eleven fans , like I did...  |
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luminous Patron of SPCR
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, I just did the hacksaw, cornering crushing technique on my fan. I was very careful not to put pressure on the bearings when doing this....but...well....it now makes a loud humming noise... Oh well, time for a new fan, and my dremel...  _________________ Acousti case | modded Chieftec 420W |120mm Nexus @850rpm| Asus A7N8X-Deluxe Rev 2 | AMD Athlon 2500+ Barton | Thermalright SLK 947 U | 92mm CPU AcoustiFan | Gigabyte 6800 (passive) | 160Gb PATA Nidec Samsungs in enclosure & 300Gb DM10 |
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Fat_bloater_dave *Lifetime Patron*
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Damn, i Tryed it, i cracked the fan case. So i just hooked it on without cutting the corners off, it stays on fine and the crack doesnt even make it produce anymore noise. |
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qdemn7
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Tibors, thanks for the excellent post and pics. Looking at your closeups of the Nexxus fan and the fact it already has "starter" holes, it looks like a nice fat drill bit, and your Dremel on high speed would cut right through in about 10 seconds. Am I wrong? |
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nici
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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LEATHERMAN tool. Cant live without one.  |
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Firetech Friend of SPCR
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: Re: The Nexus 120mm fan corner cutting guide... |
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| Tibors wrote: | | Also when mounting such fans on a Thermalright XP-120, the tubes get in the way of the mounting clips. Well, if the tubes are unwanted, they have to go. |
Great article Tibors!
As an aside, has anyone tried these XP-120 top flange clips? I'm not too confident in my ability with the "cut 'n crush" technique.
PS I did try a search before posting and got 225 pages of possibles....
BTW Merry Christmas everyone, Santa has just visited Oz and is headed your way now!  _________________ Main PC: Antec SLK 3000B, Fortron Bluestorm 400w, Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L, Intel e7300, Kingston 2x2Gb Value DDR2, 36Gb Raptor, 320Gb 7200.10, 750Gb Samsung. Silencing/Cooling mods= Glacialtech 120mm front fan, rear Tri-cool on low, CPU HSF = std @ 850rpm
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Ralf Hutter SPCR Reviewer
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: Re: The Nexus 120mm fan corner cutting guide... |
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| Firetech wrote: |
As an aside, has anyone tried these XP-120 top flange clips? I'm not too confident in my ability with the "cut 'n crush" technique. |
Yep, I'm using them on my XP-120 and SI-120 with Nexus fans. They work perfect. _________________ System 1: P4 2.4C, Intel 875PBZ, Scythe Ninja + 5V Nexus. 2 x 512MB Mushkin PC3200 Level II RAM, SP1614C, SLK3700BQE.
System 2: P4 3.4GHz NW, Intel 875PBZ, Si-120 + 6V 120mm Nexus, 2048MB Mushkin HP3200, Samsung SP1614C, P150.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: Thanks Ralf |
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Thanks Ralf!  _________________ Main PC: Antec SLK 3000B, Fortron Bluestorm 400w, Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L, Intel e7300, Kingston 2x2Gb Value DDR2, 36Gb Raptor, 320Gb 7200.10, 750Gb Samsung. Silencing/Cooling mods= Glacialtech 120mm front fan, rear Tri-cool on low, CPU HSF = std @ 850rpm
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