CA_Steve wrote:
I'm now thinking about getting the lowest price quad core instead and undervolting it at stock freq. Keeping it for a year and then selling it on ebay/replacing it with the Broadwell equivalent to the i5-4670K.

There have been strong rumours that Haswell’s replacement will be BGA only for the desktop but the platform after that will still be socketed.
QUIET! wrote:
Don't forget to consider AMD, they should come out with some compelling products because they have to.
On that basis they should have come out with compelling products a long time ago which hasn’t happened outside of recent APUs. It’s called wishful thinking.
QUIET! wrote:
I have a feeling the PS4 might replace a lot of computers.
In what way does that make sense?
QUIET! wrote:
14nm is going to be a big deal if anyone can come up with an illumination system that can support good wafer throughput, GF/IBM or TSMC might beat Intel to the punch on production.
That made me think of the cover of the Pink Floyd album Animals.
QUIET! wrote:
AMD probably should beat Intel in adopting DDR4 because APUs can use all the memory bandwidth they can get, while Intel tries embedded dram to increase IGP performance.
The problem is new memory technologies tend to be very expensive especially if there is a slow ramp which would be the case if AMD adopted DDR4 before Intel.
So AMD would gain performance but at the cost of higher prices. That trade-off would make more sense on mobile as on the desktop better to save money with DDR3 and buy a dGPU with the money saved.
QUIET! wrote:
So the question is will Intel catch up on graphics or will AMD catch up on CPU first?
Intel already seem to have the GPU so the question is more a matter of how far they want to push it next generation? I say that because Intel still aren’t allocating much TDP to graphics but if they decided to do so at 14nm will AMD be able to compete in hardware terms?
A 100W 14nm Haswell upgrade which can allocate the TDP very dynamically should be quite a monster.
If I was AMD I’d be sweating because you know that your competitor is holding back when they could be sitting on a royal flush.
So yeah, interesting times.

HFat wrote:
It has come to my attention that some SPCR posters do not realize how great is the discrepancy between Intel's and AMD's financial situations.
It has come to my attention that some SPCR posters wear tin foil hats.