This started off in a different post (which I don't want to hijack).
I would like to open this topic to everyone whose countries have a mass-migration (of un-skilled labour) problem.
There may be benefits, both short and long term in some instances, and it would be wise to discuss the positives and not just the negative points. And also each country has its own unique experiences, laws and social policies which will affect immigration, immigrants and the problems that this can bring.
How would this work? Without a citizenship you'd be hard-pressed to vote and the financial struggle only unfolded into full misery under the Tories, who made immigration very difficult. Also, don't forget that the UK was a colonial power and its open immigration policy had its roots there.
I would like to open this topic to everyone whose countries have a mass-migration (of un-skilled labour) problems.
You may not know this but people from other EU countries can vote in the country that they currently reside in. I have personally witnessed a young couple (+ baby) voting in the local elections in May 2013, chances are that they didnt vote for any political party that is not in favour of ending the current open-border immigration policy that the UK has with the rest of the EU, chances are that they voted for Labour (the main left wing political party in the UK.
Open immigration to the rest of the world can be handled very easily (but isnt being handled well at all) open-borders to most of Europe and its 500-Million citizens is the main problem that can only be resolved by ejecting ourselves from the EU, which is the option that I prefer.
The ghettos you mentioned are a result of poor integration policy, a widening gap between rich and poor. Only recently was there talk about making English a mandatory criterion to receive job seekers allowance. And besides, I don't see many white British people cleaning the streets or toilets, working in super markets, ... If anything, everybody seems to be heavily profiteering off the immigrants. Or did you want those jobs?
The widening gap between rich and poor is partly due to the rich having a "cash reserve" where the ordinary person does not, they get into debt as a general rule, or have to sell assets, also a recession wont help, and worse still is unemployment. The more people there are looking for jobs the lower the wages can be pushed down because they will simply employ the best person who will accept the lowest wage. Add to this 2-million unskilled immigrants and the average pay is going to be given a kick to the groin, wages are being forced down by all of these pressures.... but as you would have already spotted, that doesn't include the rich people, that's largely because the richer people are the better skilled people who don't have to compete with 2-million low-skilled immigrants and can continue to demand those higher wages. If for example those 2-million (low skilled) immigrants were ejected tomorrow, wages would increase instantly as unemployment would drop hugely which would instantly reduce the gap between the rich and poor.
If you leave London, (just a few miles from the urban sprawl) the vast majority of people are non-immigrants, its just the cities that are ghettoised, and yes the vast
majority of people on supermarket checkouts, cleaning offices and doing all of those "un-skilled" jobs are not
immigrants, I know this for a fact because I am basically on the borders of London so I see both sides and there is a vast difference.
Mandatory English speaking to a level that people can understand what you are saying and vice versa should have always been a "requirement" to enter the UK for anything more than a holiday - how can people get a job if they cannot communicate.? The answer is that they cant unless its a mundane low-paid (often illegally paid) job.
Those who are "profiteering" are those people who are employing people illegally, they can usually get away with paying wages in cash that are below the minimum wage because they know that they can get away with it, that barely happens with non-immigrants because non-immigrants wont then get a government pension. There are others who benefit from keeping their employees pay as low as possible (but still legally), that only happens because our current jobs market favours the employers due to so many people being out of work - more people fighting for a wage pushes that wage down.
So, who in the UK benefits from mass unskilled labour migrating to the UK, the migrants benefit, and as I said before, "I don't blame the migrants", I blame the government and EU policies.
It's an example of a fantasy. People shouldn't be concerned about it but about people confusing fantasy and reality. They are dangerous indeed. Unlike yoga.
Please elaborate on what you mean.... It makes no real sense.
Cities have always had this. Only now transportation costs have dropped enough that instead of the medieval Italian neighborhood you get neighborhoods populated by ethnically incorrect folks (in your eyes) who come from farther away.
Giving examples that fit in with your own location only helps a little, its your wording that has me confused.
Yet another fantasy. Decent countries can't be bankrupt anymore unless they've joined the Eurozone.
If a person or a company owes far more money than it can can earn its insolvent, if that person or company does not take drastic action to solve the problem of money going out faster than its coming in then it becomes bankrupt (at least that's how I understand the jargon). The UK owes £1.2 Trillion, and its increasing not reducing, if that is not what you would call bankrupt then I don't know how an individual or company could go bankrupt at all.